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Re: [TenTec] New or Used Decision; Omni VII

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] New or Used Decision; Omni VII
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:26:23 +0100
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No Barry, at least no to the Omni VII being based on the Jupiter.
It shares the same IF simply because that is a common IF in nearly all
radios that have upward conversion.
The front end of the OM7 was an entirely new design.

There is of course a lot of stuff from the Orion that made its way into both
the OM7 and Eagle, especially DSP code.
The eagle also shares the same mixing plan.  I guess you can say the concept
flowed into the Eagle.  

73
Rick, DJ0IP


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:38 AM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] New or Used Decision; Omni VII

Isn't the Eagle receiver based on the Orion?  Isn't the Omni VII receiver
(and original Orion subrx) based on the Jupiter, only with filtering added
at the 455khz i.f.?

73,
Barry N1EU

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Darrell Bellerive <
drbellerive.va7to@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is always a concern purchasing a radio that has been on the 
> market for a while. However if it does all that one needs in a radio, 
> is waiting for a replacement worthwhile? Perhaps a used one is a 
> better value if one thinks a new improved version is not that far off.
>
> I have no inside knowledge, but have to wonder what Ten-Tec's plans are.
> The Orion design is getting on in years. It does not have six meters, 
> and its bandscope is not all it could be. There is always lots of 
> churn on top of the line radios as contesters and DXers are more 
> likely to upgrade more often than the rest of us. And they always seem 
> to want the latest and greatest and the utmost in performance.
>
> Ten-Tec did just offer an upgraded sub-receiver for the Orion. I think 
> that is an attempt to buy a bit more time for the Orion II until a 
> successor is announced.
>
> This sub-receiver is based on the Eagle receiver design, as is the new 
> Argonaut VI. The Eagle receiver design is getting accolades, and it 
> looks like Ten-Tec has a winner. So, going forward I would expect that 
> any new radios would be based on this receiver design. This would help 
> Ten-Tec to keep costs down as supporting one design with a few 
> derivative versions, is easier than supporting a few completely different
designs.
>
> If we look at the current line up there is a QRP rig in the Argonaut 
> VI, a mobile or entry level base in the Eagle, a mid market radio in 
> the Omni VII, and the ultimate from Ten-Tec for the contester and DXer 
> in the Orion II.
>
> My guess is that we will not see a Jupiter II, I think the Eagle has 
> taken its place. I think there is also a hole in the general coverage 
> receiver area, a radio to replace the RX-350.
>
> So my guess, and it is only a guess, is that Ten-Tec will bring out an 
> Orion III with six meters and a better bandscope, an Omni VIII, and an
> RX-350 replacement. All of the above will be derivatives of the Eagle 
> receiver.
>
> I would also guess that the Orion III will be first as Ten-Tec has the 
> most to lose to the competition in this segment of the market. Then 
> the Omni VIII followed by the RX-350 replacement based on the receiver 
> in the Omni VIII.
>
> 73, Darrell VA7TO
>
>
> Darrell Bellerive
>
>
> On 13-01-21 05:43 AM, Roger Rippy wrote:
> The only nagging question is how long
>
>> with TT build and sell the Omni 7 before it gets replaced by the Omni 
>> 8???  Do you think they would tell us?  Not....
>> 73s  Rip   W7RIP    Bozeman, MT
>>
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