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Re: [TenTec] Omni VI mystery

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI mystery
From: Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: n4py3@earthlink.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:58:58 -0400
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He's getting no CW offset at all. I think something in the switching circuit to bring the CW trimmer into play is not working.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com

On 4/28/2014 5:24 PM, Clayton Brantley via TenTec wrote:
Look at section 4-14 for the Tx audio board.  You will need a very accurate 
freq counter and a lot
of patience  to adjust the BFO freqs.  They need to be adjusted a few times to 
make sure they are
right on.  You might want to call TenTec and talk with Gary also.  He's a great 
help.

Clayton N4EV


On Monday, April 28, 2014 4:18 PM, Barry N1EU<barry.n1eu@gmail.com>  wrote:

Jim, you need to first align your BFO oscillators (where have I heard this
before?).  You need a frequency counter or a well aligned general coverage
receiver with accurate readout that can tune to 9MHz.  The procedure is
described on pages 4-43 and 4-44 of the Omni 6 manual.

73, Barry N1EU


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Jim Allen<jim.allen@longhornband.net>wrote:

OTA testing with W5DV just now has demonstrated that something is goofed up
in the frequency alignment.  When he transmits at 14.050.00, I must tune
14,050.70 to hear him with a 700 hz. tone.  On transceive, when I go back
to him, he hears nothing, as my transmit frequency is zerobeat on
14,050.00.   When I call him on 14,050.00 he hears me, but I don't hear
him, because I am zero beat with his signal.  I dialed in -.70 of XIT and
we hear each other as expected.  I copy him on 14,050.70 and he copies me
sending on 14,050.00.  That's not how this is supposed to work.

I also notice that adjusting the sidetone frequency doesn't appear to
change the transmit frequency. It does change the difference between the
received frequency where the beat note is zero'd with the sidetone, which
amounts to the same thing, I guess.

I also checked out both VFO A and B and they are the same.

This radio was at TenTec in March and thoroughly checked out.

Is this frequency alignment easy, or require special test equipment, etc?

73 de W6OGC  Jim Allen


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Jim Allen<jim.allen@longhornband.net
wrote:

I spoke to Paul at Tentec this morning.  He suggested I use the 706 to
transmit and see if I hear that signal in the Omni.  So, with the 706
tuned
to 14,050.00, on low power and dummy load, I copy with 706 on the Omni at
14,050.70 with a 700 hz. tone.  It is zero beat at 14,050.00.

The 706 has a transmit freq, function which shows it transmitting on
14,050.00.  If I was at another location and transmitting at 14,050.00
with
the 706, and you heard me using this Omni, your VFO would show 14,050.70.
When you with the Omni, call me, on transceive, the signal is 14,050.00
and
zero beat, so I don't hear it on the 706.

Paul also confirmed that the sidetone setting varies the transmitter
offset, hz for hz, so that when you zero the other signal to the same
tone,
the transmitter is zero'd with the other signal.

Paul could do no more without the radio on the bench but suggested I
eventually may want to do a Master Reset.  I did a partial reset last
night, with no discernible change.

I'll get on the air later with other stations locally to do some more
testing.

73 de W6OGC  Jim Allen


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:35 PM,<chacuff@cableone.net>  wrote:

If that just came back from the factory I would ship it back up to
them...sounds like a simple alignment issue but it should have been
caught
in final checkout before being shipped.



Without some test gear it will be hard to get it right.



Cecil

K5DL


From: John Swartz
Sent: April 27, 2014 5:05 PM

To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI mystery


I ran an on-air test with Jim and found that when using my Omni VI+,
transmitting on 14.052.50, Jim was receiving me at 14.053.11 on his Omni
6.  When he transmits, I receive him just fine if I engage the RIT and
listen up 500 Hz, which just about coincides with what his rig is
telling him his transmit frequency is.  So, it seems that when he hears
a CQ and answers it, he is actually about 500 Hz higher in frequency
than the guy he is hearing.
I hope this helps diagnose his problem.  I'm not savvy enough to know
the fix, other than temporarily engage the RIT or XIT and preset that
500 Hz difference.

73,  John WA9AQN

--
John Swartz
Amateur Radio WA9AQN
15076 New Salem Bluff Road
Petersburg, IL 62675
USA
tel 217-632-5925

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