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Re: [TenTec] Orion 565 tuning encoder

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion 565 tuning encoder
From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2014 10:12:25 +0000
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I managed to sort out the issue with vfoB tuning.  Upon close inspection,
the insulation on the 5-wire jumper cable from pcb to encoder was slightly
frayed and I suspect intermittent shorting of adjacent wires.  Perhaps at
one time this cable was pinched between the front panel and chassis.

Thanks very much for all the help & 73,
Barry N1EU


On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I've opened the smaller encoders on the Orion (multi, RIT/XIT, etc).
> The vfo encoders are totally different animals.
>
> Barry N1EU
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <RMcGraw@blomand.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Barry, I do not recall the brand.  The one I opened and repaired is in a
>> bag at the shop.  As I think about it, most probably not the type and style
>> used for the VFO encoders.  They are likely a bit more rugged than the one
>> used for the MULTI function in the Eagle.  Anyway, I figure I might need a
>> spare one of these days.
>>
>> It was a good learning experience.
>>
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry N1EU" <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:37 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion 565 tuning encoder
>>
>>
>>  Bob, did you open an Oak Grigsby encoder?  It appears to be completely
>>> sealed.
>>>
>>> Barry N1EU
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <
>>> RMcGraw@blomand.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Shouldn't the two outputs be 90 degrees quadrature?  "A" leads "B" in
>>>> one
>>>> direction and "B leads "A" in the opposite?  I seem to think so.  I had
>>>> to
>>>> replace the MULTI encoder in my Eagle and I seem to recall it worked
>>>> this
>>>> way.
>>>>
>>>> I actually opened the original one, cleaned it, put it back together and
>>>> it works. I don't advise this however, unless you have a lot of spare
>>>> time
>>>> with nothing to do, good illumination and steady hands under good
>>>> magnification.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry N1EU" <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion 565 tuning encoder
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  After hooking up a scope, I think the encoder is bad.  I'm seeing
>>>> negative
>>>>
>>>>> going pulses on the A pin but not seeing positive going pulses on the B
>>>>> pin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barry N1EU
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I measure 4.9V on the A9 board.  I flipped the rig over and now I'm
>>>>>
>>>>>> measuring 4.3V on the encoders (?!).  Not sure what's going on.  vfoA
>>>>>> encoder is still working fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barry N1EU
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I measure 4.63V on both tuning encoders.  And both encoders work on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>> cable, so it doesn't seem like that would explain it.  But I'll poke
>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>> the A9 board.  I replaced all the A9 capacitors a few months ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks & 73,
>>>>>>> Barry N1EU
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 5:23 PM, shristov <shristov@ptt.rs> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Thanks Sinisa.  vfoB would not tune at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had the same problem.  VFO B encoder had a supply voltage of only
>>>>>>>> 4.66
>>>>>>>> V.
>>>>>>>> After tightening 4 fixing screws on the A9 board, the voltage at
>>>>>>>> encoder
>>>>>>>> rose to 4.77 V
>>>>>>>> and it started workig.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sinisa
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