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Re: [TenTec] OMNI VI illness

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI VI illness
From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 20:42:47 -0500
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The board will need to be removed from the radio. It is a tight fit between a shield and the back panel. Both top and bottom covers will need to be removed as well as the bracket that supports the speaker. Everything plugs in and cables are or were or should be numbered. Take care in removing the relays. Too much heat and one will lift the solder pads, creating another issue to be resolved.
Yes, either K4 or K5 can be bad, i.e. open coil is typical.  There could be 
other issues not causing the relays to switch for those 2 bands but it is 
more common for the coil on a relay to open.   One relay being K5 switches 
the input to the filter section from the PA and the other one K4 switches 
the output of the filter section to the TR relay.  Both 15M and 17M use the 
same filter section.
Yes, you can remove one relay and measure that one.  Then you can measure 
the one remaining on the board.  As my luck goes, the one I remove is always 
the good one.
If you don't have a schematic, I suggest you obtain one.  The 564 manual is 
available for download on the Tentec Website under DOWNLOADS and then 
Obsolete-Manual-Downloads.  Scroll down to the 564 and click on the link to 
the right that says 564 Manual.
See page 4-3 for the schematic of the Low Pass Filter board.

73
Bob, K4TAX


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serve as a volunteer beta test person to Ten-Tec for the Omni VII, Eagle and 
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Edwards" <kd2e@comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI VI illness


Bob...is the low pass filter board such that the relays can be removed with the board in the radio...or does the low pass filter board have to come out? Am I correct in that EITHER K4 or K5 could be bad causing both bands to go out? So, if I replaced them both...I'd solve the problem...or take one out, then I can measure them individually...one out, and one in the radio...hoping that I removed the bad one. Is that about right??
....Dave


On 10/25/14, 9:01 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
Most likely a relay coil open being either K4 and/or K5 on the Low Pass Filter board. Both bands, 17M & 15M, use the same filter section which is switched by those two relays. This is the vertical board at the back of the radio.
If you pull them to check them, replace them.  Since the coils are wired 
parallel, it is a bit of a challenge to figure just which one is bad with 
in circuit measurements.  My luck,  I usually remove the good one first. 
Go figure!    Tentec Service has replacements.  There's 12 of them on the 
board.  Unless you have time and money to replace all 12, I'd order 4 pcs 
and replace 2 keeping 2 as spare.

73
Bob, K4TAX




----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Edwards" <kd2e@comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:41 PM
Subject: [TenTec] OMNI VI illness


Can anyone suggest if there is anything to check on this problem?
OMNI VI+, otherwise working fine, but....
No output on 15 or 17 meters.
I can hear the signal on another receiver, but no output at all.
Receive OK, and all other bands transmit fine.

Is there something switched in for just 15 and 17?

Thanks for any thoughts!

....Dave
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