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Re: [TenTec] Orion Sub Receiver getting no signals

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Sub Receiver getting no signals
From: denton sprague <denton@oregontrail.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:05:53 -0700
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Ok umpteenth time followup…
Call the tech at TT this am and he said to check out cable No 16…goes between 
the filter board to the board just below the speaker….did so and cleaned with 
deoxit…..so far so good..sub receiver never sounded so good!
fingers very crossed and awaiting yet another visit from Mr. Muephy!

On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:32 PM, denton sprague <denton@oregontrail.net> wrote:

> that what my sub receiver problems feels like….sometime it works, sometimes a 
> hiss, sometimes some kind of indescribable noise…it has been back to TT for 
> logic board replacement.
> Sometimes pressing the sub receiver button will let it kick in, sometimes 
> not…but if I can recall, once its activated, it stays activated…
> Im going to keep the laptop with Carls orion control program handy so the 
> next time it acts up, I will se if the program makes a difference. 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:00 PM, mcelmer1 <mcelmer1@netecin.net> wrote:
> 
>> It worked for a couple of weeks after return from Ten Tec. Then nothing. but 
>> a hiss. And it has been to TN twice for this problem.
>> 
>> FWIW, I have done a googleplex of the reset routines. Next step is to open 
>> it up and check for the loose/disconnected cable dog and pony show.
>> 
>> Mike
>> W8TRN
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py3@earthlink.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:01
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Sub Receiver getting no signals
>> 
>> 
>>> I thought he said it was intermittent at first.
>>> 
>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>>> www.n4py.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/25/2015 1:53 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>>> My bet is that there's a TMP cable disconnected on the subreceiver board.
>>>> 
>>>> Barry N1EU
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 5:42 PM, mcelmer1<mcelmer1@netecin.net>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, cables, connectors or worse.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> W8TRN
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Moreschi"<n4py3@earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"<tentec@contesting.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 10:58
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Sub Receiver getting no signals
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So it's more than just no audio.  It's no signals either.  I would still
>>>>>> bet on the cable connectors behind the front panel need cleaning.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>>>>>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>>>>>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>>>>>> www.n4py.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 10/25/2015 12:34 PM, mcelmer1 wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Howard,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am using 3.032x5 V2 July 2013.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Switching to Ant 2 does not solve the problem. NB/NR/Notch/SAF/AN are
>>>>>>> Off as is the SAF/Notch tracking.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, there is no audio for the Sub receiver (or internal speaker) when
>>>>>>> headphones are used. Left/Right Audio is set to BOTH.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The BARGRAPH immediately to the right of VFO B Frequency does not move
>>>>>>> when the sub receiver is used. The Bargraph does function cuz it
>>>>>>> switches to SWR in transmit. The thin bar below the Bargraph does move
>>>>>>> when Sub AF knob/encoder is adjusted.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> W8TRN
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Smith"<jsmith207@att.net>
>>>>>>> To:<tentec@contesting.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 19:12
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Sub Receiver getting no signals
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>>>>>> The 'audio switch' that you refer to is actually done in the Main RX
>>>>>>>> dsp. The only way to control it is with the AUDIO menu, where you can
>>>>>>>> choose the signals for the Speaker, the Right Aux Out, and the Left
>>>>>>>> Aux Out. The choices for each one will be Main, Sub, or Both.
>>>>>>>> The Main RX DSP Codec inputs are the Main RX 14 KHz IF, and the MIC
>>>>>>>> input. The Outputs are Transmit 14 KHz IF, and the Speaker.
>>>>>>>> The Sub RX DSP Codec inputs are the Sub RX 14KHz IF, and the Aux
>>>>>>>> Input. The Outputs are the Left Aux Output and the Right Aux Output.
>>>>>>>> The Main RX DSP sends its digitized receive audio to the Sub RX DSP,
>>>>>>>> and the Sub RX DSP sends its digitized receive audio and the digitized
>>>>>>>> Aux Input to the Main RX DSP. This is needed so the Sub RX received
>>>>>>>> audio can be heard on the Speaker, and the Main RX received audio can
>>>>>>>> be on either or both of the Aux Outputs. The Main RX needs the Aux
>>>>>>>> Input so it can be used as an audio input.
>>>>>>>> So, yes, it is even a little more convoluted that it first appears. By
>>>>>>>> the way, the Orion II does it a little differently, and there is a 6
>>>>>>>> channel audio mixer that routes the signals where they need to go.
>>>>>>>> Maybe that was what you remembered as the 'audio switch'.
>>>>>>>> I would suggest that you try using the ANT 2 connector, and see if
>>>>>>>> that changes the Sub RX. Be sure to set the PWR control to OFF so you
>>>>>>>> don't inadvertently try to transmit into a no antenna condition.
>>>>>>>> Also, be sure that the NB, the NR, the NOTCH/SAF, and the AN are OFF
>>>>>>>> for the Sub RX. Also be sure that the SAF/NOTCH tracking between the
>>>>>>>> Main RX and the Sub RX is off.
>>>>>>>> Finally, would you report the firmware version that is currently
>>>>>>>> installed on your Orion. You can see this by pressing and holding the
>>>>>>>> MENU button until the Startup Screen appears.
>>>>>>>> 73..
>>>>>>>> Howard, WA9AXQ
>>>>>>>> 
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