I like the Omni 6 box a LOT better! That LOOKS like a ham radio, still had the
best local oscillator/VO arrangement ever seen.
The notch filter should be INSIDE the AGC loop, unlike the one non the Orion.
Otherwise it’s totally useless.
Gary
> On Dec 4, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Gary J FollettDukes HiFi <dukeshifi@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> THAT is a radio I would buy!
>
> Gary
>
> w0DVN
>
>
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well said Rick. What we need is an Eagle with an Omni VI+ front panel!!!
>>
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Louis,
>>>
>>> While I agree that there is a market for simpler radios, not overloaded
>>> with features, going back to an analog VFO and Xtal filters is not only
>>> costly, it is a big step backwards in performance.
>>>
>>> Our bands are way more crowded than they were back in the 70s, the days of
>>> the Triton IV.
>>> Far more hams have amplifiers than back then.
>>> Simple crystal filters won't cut it. They lack the steep skirts of the
>>> DSP filters.
>>>
>>> Multiple crystal filters in two IF frequencies is a minimum requirement
>>> and this drives cost way up, and even then, the ultimate attenuation is not
>>> as good as with DSP filters.
>>> DSP filters are much cheaper to implement, and far superior to the
>>> dual-crystal filter solution.
>>> Going back to an analog VFO would rule out any kind of modern digital mode
>>> so that would turn away half the potential buyers.
>>>
>>> The Eagle was a good step in the kind of radio you are talking about
>>> except it had one major disconnect in the planning. This kind of radio
>>> appeals to old guys like me... who can't see very good anymore. We don't
>>> need a tiny radio with a tiny display and a micro-S-Meter, we need a normal
>>> sized radio with easy to read meter and scales, and we need big knobs for
>>> our arthritis-plagued hands.
>>>
>>> So yes, give us a simple, affordable radio, but let's not have it
>>> broadcast "yaba daba doo" each time we turn it on!
>>>
>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Louis
>>> Ciotti
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 7:49 PM
>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Status
>>>
>>> With some time to reflect on this announcement, It is clear that Ten-Tec
>>> has hopefully reached bottom. While the only tentec equipment I currently
>>> own is my grandfathers old Trition IV set-up, I had in the pas also owned
>>> an Argonaut, and an Omni VI+ opt 3. I have always loved the receive on
>>> ten-tec rigs, and my main rig being FT-950 now, I do miss it. It is my
>>> hope that Ten-Tec can be resurrected and produce quality equipment.
>>>
>>> A couple of items that are somewhat concerning in this announcement:
>>>
>>> 1) I had no idea production was stopped on any of the products. With the
>>> statements that OMNI's and eagles will be back in production in 2016. Did
>>> RKR liquidate all the component inventory that is going to cause this time
>>> get production rolling again? Or did the new owner just buy the name and
>>> IP?
>>> 2) Asking for monetary support from end users. I do not see this
>>> working. Talking about raising 200K-400K from end users if s BIG red flag
>>> for me.
>>> 3) RKR still has TenTec on their list of products. What of the people
>>> who are not on this reflector who attempt to order product from today on?
>>> Are they being turned away? This can't be a good thing to happen.
>>> 4) What is to happen with repairs. There is no mention of this at all.
>>> RKR seemed to destroy TenTec reputation for providing repairs at a
>>> reasonable cost, for just about any of TenTecs products, even well out of
>>> production products.
>>> 5) This coming out before the formal announcement is only going to create
>>> lots of speculation, and rumors of what "will" happen in the future.
>>>
>>> As for my $0.02 opinion on future Ten-Tec offerings. call it my top 10
>>> list:
>>>
>>> 1) Bring back a "vintage" styled radio. Something for the new ham, or
>>> old timer who does not want to dig through 3 layers of menus to adjust the
>>> RF output power. While all the new and fancy feature are nice (DSP, band
>>> displays, built in digital mode encoders, etc.) they are not must have for
>>> every ham out there. Think a modern 544 with the same marketing plan, base
>>> rig, matching power supply, external VFO, matching antenna tuner, etc...
>>> Something that can grow with the user.
>>> 2) Bring back the line of Ten-Tet manual tuners
>>> 3) #2, but a CW qrp rig
>>> 4) Kits kits and more kits!!
>>> 5) Cases. I know this was dropped a few years ago, but a small line a
>>> cases that experimenters and home-brewers can use would be great
>>> 6) Include FULL documentation and open source all firmware source code
>>> with all new radios so end users can trouble shoot, and potentially fix
>>> their investment, and create modifications.
>>> 7) Something geared toward mobile use. Again keep it simple with mostly
>>> front panel controls that can be easily operated while mobile.
>>> 8) 6M Transverter
>>> 9) Bring back the 6N2
>>> 10) More open source radios
>>>
>>> While flagship and cutting edge radios are nice, there is defiantly a
>>> marked for radios that adhere to the KISS principal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Mike Bryce <prosolar@sssnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well that’s a fine how-do-you-do this morning.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve been with the same company I’m various forms for 43 years.
>>>>
>>>> We were sold, went bankrupt, sold to a capital investment group, went
>>>> bankrupt, sold again, did ESOP, sold, bankrupt… This went on and on.
>>>>
>>>> whenever someone want’s to “invest in your company” you’d better run.
>>>> RKR wasn’t a good mix for Ten Tec. My opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Mergers are never a good idea. When I hired in, the company had just
>>>> under a thousand employees. Today, we have 53. Where we once had 90%
>>>> of the market, we struggle with 15%. Sure, we have
>>>> newer/slimmer/import competitors, but somehow though the mergers, we
>>>> lost track of what we where, where we’ve been, and where we’re going.
>>>>
>>>> Right now, Ten Tec is like the company I work for. We’re barreling
>>>> down hill and nobody is driving the bus.
>>>>
>>>> It seems right now that Ten Tec is poking their heads down into the
>>> abyss.
>>>> And to me, the last owners used the company like a beer can—they
>>>> drained out the last drop and then crushed the empty shell.
>>>>
>>>> The light at the end of my tunnel is getting brighter, and I can see
>>>> myself retired by the time dayton 2016 arrives. I won’t have the $$$
>>>> to throw into the pot to help Ten Tec design a new radio. Shades of
>>>> ATLAS Radio come to mind when the owner said the same thing. Help me
>>>> fund this new radio, and you’ll be first to own one. All the investors
>>>> lost all their money.
>>>>
>>>> One thing that I couldn’t understand was why Ten Tec dropped making
>>>> some of the accessories that would match with their gear?They did in
>>>> the past, like the antenna tuners for the corsair, the Triton’s.
>>>> Ameritron can sell a four tube 811 amp for a price that makes is very
>>>> easy to afford. Why can’t Ten Tec build such an amplifier? And not price
>>> it at $2999?
>>>>
>>>> MFJ has ten full page ads in QST selling accessories. There had to be
>>>> profit in those. But, that all being said, I never sat in one of the
>>>> board meets at Ten Tec. Perhaps they were a money looser.
>>>>
>>>> I certainly don’t want to sound like a monday morning quarterback and
>>>> say what I’d do, because that’s so easy to do. I don’t know have a
>>>> clue about the internal workings of any company, not even the one I work
>>> for.
>>>>
>>>> I will throw this into the hat.
>>>>
>>>> If Ten Tec does in fact show up at dayton 2016, I’ll be happy to
>>>> volunteer a few hours every day at their booth. Elecraft has
>>>> volunteers, why not Ten Tec?
>>>>
>>>> I wish the new owner the best of luck, and will continue to booster
>>>> the company and purchase its products.
>>>>
>>>> I’m mike, wb8vge
>>>>
>>>> Mike Bryce
>>>> prosolar@sssnet.com
>>>>
>>>>
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