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Re: [TenTec] SDR Vs. TT, et al

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] SDR Vs. TT, et al
From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:48:15 -0500
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Sorry Greg, the Flex and ANAN are contest ready and fully capable of a top
10 finish.  Why so few top contesters use them is all about ergonomics, not
performance.

And hey, NOBODY goes over 48wpm in a contest.  The top stations are mostly
running mid-30's wpm with a few of the dx stations running their pileups in
the neighborhood of 40wpm.

I don't actually have a clue what you mean in terms of a recording
revealing "if the performance is up to our standards."

FWIW, I NEVER use QSK in a contest.

73, Barry N1EU

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Greg S via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
wrote:

> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.”
>  ~anon.
>
> I am a simple guy, and I think that where the "rubber meets the road" is
> what matters. I postulate the following: Make a QUALITY digital recording
> at the station with a GOOD Flex 6700 set up, of an ACTUAL CW QSO with
> strong signals, at speeds of   xxWPM using QSK. Make sure the side tone
> volume and the received volume are about equal. Use a recording device
> SEPARATE from the computer used for  the Flex--- and have the AGC of that
> recording device is turned off. I think many options exist to do this. Post
> the results of this file, and a link to that file. WE CAN USE OUR EARS to
> determine if the performance is up to our standards. THAT is what REALLY
> matters...... in MY opinion. Do the same from an Eagle, or an Orion, or a
> K3, et al.......Let's compare REALITY.   - (See leading quote above).
>
> A couple more tidbits as food for thought:
>
> How many top 10 contest finishers are currently using a Flex OR ANAN to
> place in the top 10 in the contest? (Someone said the 6700 is "Contest
> Ready" ..... so is my Corsair II, but I doubt anyone is finishing in the
> top 10 using one  ;-)).
> Did I not just recently read a review in QST where they found 48WPM was
> the limit of the 100D without character shortening?? (I know this can
> change rapidly).
>
> Not trying to disparage anyone, nor any rig, nor do I have the ability, or
> capability, to do any of the above.  I do not know the  answers the
> questions I posed, but they are the thoughts that ran thru my simple mind
> on a Monday morning......AND, I am guessing there are those on the list
> that CAN answer them, AND do the above proposed experiments. I also
> postulate many on the list would like to "HEAR" the results, not just SEE
> them.
>
> If I am off-base tell me to go jump in the lake..... I have one close by,
> and it isn't even frozen over yet!!!
>
> 73-
> Greg Schippers, KC8HXO
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 12/7/15, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 156, Issue 4
>  To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>  Date: Monday, December 7, 2015, 8:58 AM
>
>  I'm not sure
>  that's the right question to ask because recovery
>  doesn't
>  necessarily happen in real
>  time.  The Flex T/R cw recovery is really a mind
>  blower for an SDR.  But does it necessarily
>  mean you can do actual QSK and
>  hear someone
>  else trying to break you in real time?  I think there's
>  still
>  receive latency so that even with the
>  receiver recovering, it still lags
>  real time
>  signals by 150msec (or whatever).
>
>  Barry N1EU
>
>  --------------------SNIPPED FOR BREVITY------------------------------
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