AMEN. It is indeed very clumsy using that feature.
And I already have that point on the list.
I just thought of another point but I will read all the emails in my inbox and
see if anyone else has mentioned it.
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ron Notarius
W3WN
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 9:38 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Pimp My Eagle
I stand corrected.
It wasn't an RIT issue, it was an issue with how to set up the two VFO's to run
split. Suffice to say, my friend wasn't that happy with that aspect (and as
DX'ers, we do work a lot of split, so it's a small but important point), but I
should leave the details to him rather than muddle things up further.
And the return of the orange dot, of course!
73
On 01/07/16, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
Although it's been a while since (darn the luck!) I've had my hands on an
Eagle, one complaint I remember that the rig owner had was over the RIT
control. I'll have to ask him for the specifics, unless he decides to chime in
here, of course, but I do recall that he found the RIT control frustrating.
That is the only major "flaw" I can recall him having over the rig.
73, ron w3wn
On 01/07/16, rick@dj0ip.de wrote:
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD FOCUSED ON THE EAGLE.
(feel free to start a new thread on O7+ or O3)
I agree with Brian . . . let s talk about radios again.
It seems the current tentative plan is:
1) OM7(+) gets a new front plate and face plate, but not a lot of changes
2) (super) Eagle gets new DSP and _ _ _ _ _ _
3) Argonaut 6 will more or less resume production unchanged
4) An O3 is in the making, details unknown
I want to make a suggestions about the future Eagle.
IMO TEN-TEC made a mistake with the Eagle.
They tried to address three market segments with one product.
1) A simple easy to use computer for old folks (including me) who usually
prefer not to even turn the computer on, just because we want to get on the
radio but do want high performance.
2) The mobile hf market
3) The entry level 100w hf transceiver market
Result: Jack of all trades, master of none.
If you read the wish list in the Eagle group, since the beginning there were
clearly representatives of all three groups expressing wishes for improvements.
What might benefit one group is often counter-productive for the other.
If Ten-Tec is to succeed, they need to identify the market segment for each
product and optimize for it.
Of the three segments I have listed above, I believe Ten-Tec s best chance is
in no. 1.
I don t think any US based OEM can go big in the entry level segment because it
is primarily driven by price.
I also believe a mobile rig today MUST have a removable front panel. Sure some
people don t mind having the radio occupy the front passenger space, but I
prefer to keep it for my XYL. (In fact I have no choice ;-)
My wish is for the Super Eagle to focus on number 1 above.
As such, I can propose some changes:
1) And most important: a bigger box. In all my 15+ years participating in
Ten-Tec groups, I can t recall a single instance of anyone asking for a smaller
box. Yet ALL OEMs seem to think that s what we want.
Lots of important things suffer when you reduce the size of the box. You have
less knobs, more menu adjustable items, smaller loud speaker, smaller S-Meter,
coils are smaller (lower Q), heat sinks are smaller and fans are smaller so you
have more noise. Less room for working on the radio, less room for back panel
jacks (so we must use plugs with 75 pins!). DON T NEED ANY OF THIS. I NEED THE
FOLLOWING
2) Larger knobs. Concentric knobs are only ok if they are large enough.
3) Larger S-meter. Prefer a true meter, but if not, then at least a color-coded
LED meter.
4) inch connections for things like key and headphones;
5) Separate jacks for paddle and straight key
6) PTT and AMP KEY should be RCA Phono (again)
7) Dedicated RIT control (not the multi-knob)
8) Simplified VFO mode (i.e. getting in and out of split)
9) Buttons should have a max of dual function. Push once to enable main
function, push twice (quickly) to enable secondary function. I don t want to
push multiple buttons that may be on opposite sides of the front panel.
10) Exception to menu handling is allowed but only for things that really are
set once and forget , such as defining filter slots and screen color.
11) Mic gain and CW Speed should be a dedicated knob. I m OK with it just being
one knob, but others might prefer concentric.
12) Band stacking register. Don t understand why it was left out.
13) [finally] address the keying timing issues when using a non-Ten-Tec linear
amplifier. The Pre-dit and Post-dit (hang) time must be adjustable.
Pre-dit can be inside the set once and forget menu, but Post-dit is a value I
change often. Either make it easy to adjust, OR make it dynamically linked to
the keyer speed with user adjustable ratio. There are keyers on the market that
have this feature.
14) IF output to the real panel. Can be an option, but just plug one cable.
15) Pre-selector output to the real panel. Can be an option, but just 2 cables.
16) AUX-RX ANT connection. It s to the point now that often the low bands are
only usable with some kind of special small receiving antenna, due to all the
noise from consumer products.
17) NO BAND SCOPE. (Use the IF connector on the rear panel). Or use an ANT OUT,
an external SDR, and Carl s NP4Y software.
18) Power Out indicator (not just an ALC LED)
19) What else?
20) Bright Red-Orange Dot! ;-)
I m sure I have forgotten a few points, but mainly KEEP IT SIMPLE so that old
eyes and old fingers can use it.
I intentionally began this thread here rather than in the Eagle group because
maybe if we get these changes, some of the people here (and not currently in
the Eagle group) will join us.
PIMP MY EAGLE!
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
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