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Re: Topband: [WARNING: A/V UNSCANNABLE]RE: Waller Flag Question

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Subject: Re: Topband: [WARNING: A/V UNSCANNABLE]RE: Waller Flag Question
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 14:31:55 -0700
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On Mon,9/7/2015 1:05 PM, K1FZ-Bruce wrote:
Thanks Jim, There are new hams that do not know how horizontal antennas patterns change over ground.

Right. In general, horizontally polarized antennas only care about height, while vertically polarized antennas care SOME about height, but mostly about soil conductivity. I gave a talk at Pacificon and to a couple of ham clubs on this based on an extensive NEC modeling study. Slides are here.

http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal-Slides.pdf

On 160 meters, Usually, but nor always, higher is better up to 1/2 wavelength for low angle DX.. Lousy soil, like low conductivity sand, dry desert soil, can put the effective conducting ground much lower than the surface soil

DX does not always come in at low angles. Antenna handbooks ARRL, and Low Band DXing books are worth reading.

N6BV's Antenna Book statistical data for use with HFTA are an excellent resource in that regard, but I think the data for 160M is interpolated from data for higher frequencies. And yes, the ON4UN book is excellent on that topic.

73, Jim K9YC
73
Bruce-K1FZ

www.qsl.net/k1fz/beverage_antenna.html


      I saw that statement as well, which noted a gain of -53 dBi. My NEC
model, using Carlos's dimensions over lousy soil, computes -44 dBi with
a peak at 24 degrees.
73, Jim K9YC
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