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Today's Topics:
1. coax soldering (Larry)
2. Re: coax soldering (Renee K6FSB)
3. Re: coax soldering (DXer)
4. Re: coax soldering (MICHAEL ST ANGELO)
5. Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160 (Ward Silver)
6. Re: Topband Digest, Vol 168, Issue 3 (David Olean)
7. Re: coax soldering (Mike Waters)
8. Fwd: Stew Perry TopBand DX Challenge #21 (Lew Sayre)
9. Re: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160 (Mark K3MSB)
10. Re: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160 (Ward Silver)
11. ARRL 160 (Lee STRAHAN)
12. Re: ARRL 160 (Lee STRAHAN)
13. Re: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160 (Stan Stockton)
14. ARRL 160m (Ilmo Anttila)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:50:55 -0500
From: Larry <pacer99@aol.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: coax soldering
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hi guys,
planning on installing some more beverages. i have a roll of CATV 75 ohm cable.
it is the kind with a double shield. aluminum wrap over tinned copper shield.
there is some kind of sticky on the shield and i dont think that i can solder
efficiently to it.
what is the best way to clean the "sticky" off the shield so that i can solder
to it for PL259's?
thanks,
larry
n7dd
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:03:56 -0800
From: Renee K6FSB <k6fsb.1@gmail.com>
To: Larry <pacer99@aol.com>, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: coax soldering
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I think the best method is F connector, snap and seal, if you must have
a 259 use an adapter.
Ren?e, K6FSB
On 2016-12-04 11:50 AM, Larry via Topband wrote:
hi guys,
planning on installing some more beverages. i have a roll of CATV 75 ohm cable.
it is the kind with a double shield. aluminum wrap over tinned copper shield.
there is some kind of sticky on the shield and i dont think that i can solder
efficiently to it.
what is the best way to clean the "sticky" off the shield so that i can solder
to it for PL259's?
thanks,
larry
n7dd
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 15:31:45 -0500
From: DXer <hfdxmonitor@gmail.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: coax soldering
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That's exactly what I've been doing for some years now. I buy the cable
already terminated with F connectors, and add BNC, PL259, or N adapters
as required.
Not the most efficient as far as minimizing losses is concerned, but
terminating cable is not something I enjoy.
I don't know how this would work with hi power. I operate with less than
100W always.
73 de Vince, VA3VF
On 2016-12-04 3:03 PM, Renee K6FSB wrote:
I think the best method is F connector, snap and seal, if you must have
a 259 use an adapter.
Ren?e, K6FSB
On 2016-12-04 11:50 AM, Larry via Topband wrote:
hi guys,
planning on installing some more beverages. i have a roll of CATV 75
ohm cable. it is the kind with a double shield. aluminum wrap over
tinned copper shield. there is some kind of sticky on the shield and i
dont think that i can solder efficiently to it.
what is the best way to clean the "sticky" off the shield so that i
can solder to it for PL259's?
thanks,
larry
n7dd
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 15:56:19 -0500 (EST)
From: MICHAEL ST ANGELO <mstangelo@comcast.net>
To: DXer <hfdxmonitor@gmail.com>, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: coax soldering
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I don't like soldering to coax connectors and use crimp connectors.
I know they made BNC crimp connectors for RG-6. They may make crimp type PL259
connectors for RG-6.
Another option is to stick with F type compression connectors and install F
type female receptacles on the equipment.
Mike N2MS
On December 4, 2016 at 3:31 PM DXer <hfdxmonitor@gmail.com> wrote:
That's exactly what I've been doing for some years now. I buy the cable
already terminated with F connectors, and add BNC, PL259, or N adapters
as required.
Not the most efficient as far as minimizing losses is concerned, but
terminating cable is not something I enjoy.
I don't know how this would work with hi power. I operate with less than
100W always.
73 de Vince, VA3VF
On 2016-12-04 3:03 PM, Renee K6FSB wrote:
I think the best method is F connector, snap and seal, if you must have
a 259 use an adapter.
Ren?e, K6FSB
On 2016-12-04 11:50 AM, Larry via Topband wrote:
hi guys,
planning on installing some more beverages. i have a roll of CATV 75
ohm cable. it is the kind with a double shield. aluminum wrap over
tinned copper shield. there is some kind of sticky on the shield
and i
dont think that i can solder efficiently to it.
what is the best way to clean the "sticky" off the shield so that i
can solder to it for PL259's?
thanks,
larry
n7dd
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 15:17:14 -0600
From: Ward Silver <hwardsil@gmail.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160
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Not by me, I assure you, but several have been reported after this
weekend's excellent conditions.
Does anyone know of historical clean sweeps of all ARRL/RAC sections in
any prior ARRL 160 contests? The online score database only lists
"mults" which include both sections and DXCC entities.
73, Ward N0AX
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 21:22:18 +0000
From: David Olean <K1WHS@metrocast.net>
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 168, Issue 3
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Hello Tree
I tried calling you early on, with no luck in the ARRL 160 test.
Possibly your noise was one reason you could not pick me out. Later on,
you called me while I was CQing, so all was good. I have a W8JI DXE
phasing box here, (NCC-1) and I use it to help cancel out some awful
line noise to my west. I suspect that there are many noise sources all
contributing, but I am able to improve my S/N ratio quite well with the
NCC-1. I phase two beverages aimed at 220 and 260 degrees, and feed the
output of the NCC-1 to my K3. At times I can get rid of about 10 dB of
crud. It isn't perfect, but it helps. Every day seems different, but it
usually helps most of the time. I lose when the signal is the same
heading as the noisy pole.
I am building another beverage and have hacked about 500 ft of brush
thru the woods so far. I have much more to go as I am hoping to lay out
1200 to 1500 ft of wire aimed at 290 degrees. I am hoping that it is out
of the noise direction and will be quieter and work for stations in the
far west. I have a JA wire aimed at 330 and it is quiet. I think that
290 degrees is beverage #7 and my woods are getting pretty crowded with
overhead wires. Only the west and SW wires are noisy.
Dave K1WHS
Lebanon, ME.
3. New use for Noise Canceling box (Tree)
Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2016 06:01:23 -0800
From: Tree <tree@kkn.net>
To: 160 <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: New use for Noise Canceling box
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Last night - around 8 PM or so - this HUGE noise signal showed up on 160 -
sweeping up the band slowly. Probably a DC power supply with signals every
80 kHz or something. But - it has some energy all over the ban - thus
rasing my noise floor. Sorry if I was an alligator last night.
I put a Beverage up to the East just before the contest started - so I had
two RX antennas - the other being a Hi-Z 4 square. The Hi-Z said the noise
signal was East - perhaps a bit stronger in the South direction than North
- so call it just South of East. The Beverage picked it up very well - so
it agreed. A feeble attempt at DFing last night was unsuccessful - but
will be tried again if it stays on during the daytime. It is still on this
morning before Sunrise.
The nasty part of the noise is about the same signal strength as most good
signals coming in that are not local (looking at the band scope). It has a
10 kHz or so wide peak.
I was able to put the two RX antennas into a MFJ-1026 - with the output
going to the RX input of my K3 - and adjusted the controls to null out the
noise. With a local signal - I have been able to obtain deep nulls and
this proved to be true with this noise. I was actually running guys on the
East coast right in the middle of the worst part of the noise after doing
this.
This technique would likely be useful for those who have a similar noise
situation - so I wanted to share. You obviously don't need a beverage for
the "noise" antenna - just something that is good at picking up the noise
and perhaps nothing much else. If you have a neighbor that has a noisy
device - just put something that is close to their house.
It's a battle out there to keep your noise sources under control. I'll
report back if I am successful in finding this one.
73 Tree N6TR / K7RAT
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 16:25:09 -0600
From: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
To: topband <topband@contesting.com>
Cc: Larry <pacer99@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: coax soldering
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Larry,
K6FSB and N2MS just gave you the correct answer!
You'll need the correct stripping and crimping tools, and the right
snap-and-seal connectors. It's a one-time, low-cost investment that will
save you much time and frustration. Once you try it, you'll see.
There is nothing "sacred" about soldering. Think about the billions of
crimped F-connectors in all the CATV, etc. systems in the world.
Also, the sticky is "flooding compound". It's your friend, as nasty as it
is. :-)
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Renee K6FSB <k6fsb.1@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the best method is F connector, snap and seal, if you must have a
259 use an adapter.
Ren?e, K6FSB
On 2016-12-04 11:50 AM, Larry via Topband wrote:
... i have a roll of CATV 75 ohm cable. it is the kind with a double
shield. aluminum wrap over tinned copper shield. there is some kind of
sticky on the shield and i dont think that i can solder efficiently to it.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:50:02 -0800
From: Lew Sayre <w7ew@arrl.net>
To: "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>,
cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Fwd: Stew Perry TopBand DX Challenge #21
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Greetings Contesters or Wannabes of Top Band,
The ARRL 160M contest is over and was pretty darn good. The
participants have in mind what needs to be done
for the final station systems preparation for The Stew Perry Top Band DX
Challenge. If you don't have a working system
you have until Dec 17, when the starting gong for The Stew is struck at
Club HQ to brew up one up. You can do it!
Where else can you sit for hours while it is dark outside listening to
static while picking the sound shrapnel out of the
cacophony while using physics in its finest form?
The rules are unique and pretty clear. Go memorize them here:
http://www.kkn.net/stew/ Read them critically and you'll see contesting
in a different light.
The Boring Amateur Radio Club sponsors The Stew Perry and the
contestants sponsor plaques to spur on and
reward the combatants for great radio feats performed during The Challenge.
The sponsors and categories listed
below are to be congratulated and thanked for their creativeness and
support. You can become a listed Stalwart
also by emailing me with your plaque idea and the $60 or $63 to make it
happen. You can do it now.
KL7RA Top # of QSOs by a S/O
N0TT Top Score, S/O, <21Y/O, > 200 QSOs
K7CA Top Score S/O China
K7CA Top Score S/O CQ Zone 24,27 or 28
KH6LC VK/ZL Challenge- Top S/O VK-ZL
AA6VB Top Score Big City >50K, Little Pistol <100W
AA6VB Top Score Base Loaded Vertical < 60' tall
N6TQ/A25TQ California Dreaming- Top # of QSOs with Cal
VK0EK Stations by a non-California station
Rochester DX Assoc Top Score,S/O, L-P, Outside N. America
UX1UA Top # NA + SA QSOs by Zone 16 station
K7FL Top Score 100% Search and Pounce
K9JWV/WC7S Top QRP Score,West of Mississippi,wire antennas
Dr. Beldar-L1AR Top Score,S/O, Temporary Antenna erected > Dec.3
(All parts of temporary antenna including radials
must be
installed after Dec. 3, 2016. This antenna must be
the only
antenna for TopBand at the station and may be left
erected
because as we all know "temporary" means "until I die"
KR2Q Golden Log Award
K2PO Top Score, S/O, Low Power Zone 3
N6TR Top Score, S/O, Hi-Power CN Grid Field
W2GD Team Top # QSOs, NA/SA by a European Station
VK6VZ VK6HD Memorial- Top Score by N. hemisphere station working S.
hemisphere stations.
Winner gets a new, fresh Flying Doctors of VK baseball
hat
This year the time until The Stew is very short so please get those
chores and promises done
soon so you can spend an unencumbered night flinging and catching grid
squares from anywhere
that the Laws of Physics allow 160M radio waves to propagate.
Don't see a category yet that quickens your pulse? Sponsor one and
perhaps make it personal
with your radio peers. Only the entire 160M radio Community will be
noticing and participating. Just
remember to include what plaques you are competing for in your comments
section of your log submission.
We're pretty good at putting on radio contests but not so hot at mind
reading.
73 and I remain,
Lew w7ew
The Boring Amateur Radio Club Committee on Stew Stuff
w7ew@arrl.net
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 17:54:13 -0500
From: Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb@gmail.com>
To: Ward Silver <hwardsil@gmail.com>
Cc: topBand List <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160
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3830 Scores -> Contest Summaries is one source, but it's not official
http://3830scores.com/listeditions.php?arg=B6cgaWz5a3
73 Mark K3MSB
On Dec 4, 2016 4:17 PM, "Ward Silver" <hwardsil@gmail.com> wrote:
Not by me, I assure you, but several have been reported after this
weekend's excellent conditions.
Does anyone know of historical clean sweeps of all ARRL/RAC sections in
any prior ARRL 160 contests? The online score database only lists "mults"
which include both sections and DXCC entities.
73, Ward N0AX
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 17:51:16 -0600
From: Ward Silver <hwardsil@gmail.com>
To: Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb@gmail.com>
Cc: topBand List <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160
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Yeah - manual but doable. There are a lot of obviously wrong entries
there - like "97" sections. Probably a typo or sections + entities.
I'm looking for "83" :-)
73, Ward N0AX
On 12/4/2016 4:54 PM, Mark K3MSB wrote:
3830 Scores -> Contest Summaries is one source, but it's not official
http://3830scores.com/listeditions.php?arg=B6cgaWz5a3
73 Mark K3MSB
On Dec 4, 2016 4:17 PM, "Ward Silver" <hwardsil@gmail.com
<mailto:hwardsil@gmail.com>> wrote:
Not by me, I assure you, but several have been reported after this
weekend's excellent conditions.
Does anyone know of historical clean sweeps of all ARRL/RAC
sections in any prior ARRL 160 contests? The online score
database only lists "mults" which include both sections and DXCC
entities.
73, Ward N0AX
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 00:14:01 +0000
From: Lee STRAHAN <k7tjr@msn.com>
To: "Topband@contesting.com" <Topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: ARRL 160
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Did anyone else work the station IDing as 4MJK?
The ARRL robot will not accept that call sign. I was pretty sure I had it right.
Lee K7TJR OR
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 00:26:15 +0000
From: Lee STRAHAN <k7tjr@msn.com>
To: "Topband@contesting.com" <Topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL 160
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Bingo you guys are great. One little Dah.
TNX Lee
Did anyone else work the station IDing as 4MJK?
The ARRL robot will not accept that call sign. I was pretty sure I had it right.
Lee K7TJR OR
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 20:35:42 -0500
From: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
To: Ward Silver <hwardsil@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb@gmail.com>, topBand List
<topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160
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I have it in mind that K5NA made a clean sweep many years ago and that was the
first.
I was not able to find VY1 this weekend or it would have been cool to work all
83 from the DX side. VE4GV literally woke me up for #82 with one call and a
big signal at 35 WPM.
Stan, ZF9CW
Sent from Stan's IPhone
On Dec 4, 2016, at 6:51 PM, Ward Silver <hwardsil@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah - manual but doable. There are a lot of obviously wrong entries there - like "97"
sections. Probably a typo or sections + entities. I'm looking for "83" :-)
73, Ward N0AX
On 12/4/2016 4:54 PM, Mark K3MSB wrote:
3830 Scores -> Contest Summaries is one source, but it's not official
http://3830scores.com/listeditions.php?arg=B6cgaWz5a3
73 Mark K3MSB
On Dec 4, 2016 4:17 PM, "Ward Silver" <hwardsil@gmail.com
<mailto:hwardsil@gmail.com>> wrote:
Not by me, I assure you, but several have been reported after this
weekend's excellent conditions.
Does anyone know of historical clean sweeps of all ARRL/RAC
sections in any prior ARRL 160 contests? The online score
database only lists "mults" which include both sections and DXCC
entities.
73, Ward N0AX
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 09:22:21 +0200
From: "Ilmo Anttila" <ilmo.anttila@qualisys.fi>
To: "'Top Band'" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: ARRL 160m
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Worked about 50 NA stations in the contest. It is a long time conditions
have been so good for us here in North. Saturday morning was much better
than Sunday morning.
Most western sections were AZ and CO. Heard also OR but no luck this time.
73!
Ilmo, OH2BO
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