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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [BULK] - Re: [BULK] - Re: [BULK] - Re: Tower Restrictions
From: Kelly Johnson <n6kj.kelly@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Kelly Johnson <n6kj.kelly@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:32:20 -0800
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CC&R's and HOA's are a way for middle income people to create
neighborhoods that make them FEEL like they are rich.

Rich people have always been able to buy a large lot and a large home
and plant trees (if necessary) to maintain their privacy.  They've
always been able to buy homes in upscale neighborhoods where people
that park beat up tracks in the driveway and hang clothes out to dry
in the backyard can't afford to live.  Most rich people have no need
(or desire) to place themselves under such restrictions in order to
protect themselves from someone putting a car up on blocks next door. 
Buying into an "upscale" neighborhood has the same effect.  They
already know that their neighborhood is so expensive that it is
unlikely they will wind up with a neighbor that hangs clothes out to
dry in the back yard or parks their beat up RV in the driveway. 
Snooty, BMW drivin' middle class people who can only afford their BMW
because it is leased and their credit cards are maxed out are the ones
that like CC&Rs and HOAs because it creates the feel of a "rich"
neighborhood without requiring the same investment.  They want to
"feel" rich even though they aren't.


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:13:17 -0800, Steve Katz <stevek@jmr.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> The house I had with the restriction on liquor sales was in L.A. (West
> Hills).  I figured the guy who sold the land to the developer must have
> been a teetotaler.  L.A. was pretty antenna friendly.  When I was living
> with my folks in Santa Monica in the 1950s, the zoning administrator was
> a neighbor.  I asked him about putting in a tower and he said there were
> no rules one way or the other, so go ahead (that probably has changed a
> bit).
> 
> ::Hi Bob.  Actually, it hasn't changed much.  Although the Coastal
> Commission admins anything within a few miles of the ocean, so Santa Monica
> has more rules than inland locations do.  L.A. remains a very ham-friendly
> city, with the only problem being private deed restrictions in some places.
> Curiously enough (check it out, this is very true), the more affluent the
> neighborhood, the less likely there will be any deed restrictions at all.
> Newport Beach, where the average home is probably $2-1/2 million or so,
> permits amateur towers to 70 feet without the need for any variance or CUP.
> Hidden Hills, just a few miles SW of West Hills, has an average home value
> of ~$3 Million and has no CC&Rs at all -- there are hundreds of homes there,
> and quite a number of hams.  The notion that CC&Rs mean a "better community"
> somehow just doesn't wash, anywhere.  It's baloney.
> 
> When I lived in Tucson, AZ it seemed that antenna restrictions were
> everywhere (covenents, not city or county requirements).
> 
> ::I agree, from my research, AZ is among the worst on this count -- in fact,
> until I did quite a lot of research, I reckoned CC&Rs actually started in AZ
> (they didn't).
> 
> ::73, Steve WB2WIK/6
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> 
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless 
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any 
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
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See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless Weather 
Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions 
and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.

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