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Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator

To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>,"larryjspammenot@teleport.com" <larryj@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:05:41 -0600
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Unfortunately, here's the deal on the "just fill out a token amount" 
request:

If it ever comes to pass that Customs finds out the EXPORTER fradulently 
filled out a customs form, it's the EXPORTER who earns the criminal charges.

Coming into Canada, USED equipment gets dinged at the same rate as new, only 
on a value less than new.

If it's something that's exempt from duty, it remains exempt from duty, new 
or used. However, there are also sales taxes, both federal and provincial 
(except for Kirby's utopian Alberta) that are due.

Not everything that's amateur radio is exempt from duty, however. And NAFTA 
doesn't apply since the AlfaSpid isn't manufactured in a NAFTA country.

The ideal situation for the NA Spid distributor would be a U.S. shipping 
address, much like the parts distributor Digi-Key, located in Thief River 
Falls, MN, has a warehouse in Winnipeg used for shipping Canadian orders. Of 
course, that's a decision Alfa Radio must make based on the amount shipped 
to the U.S.

73, kelly
ve4xt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "larryjspammenot@teleport.com" <larryj@teleport.com>
To: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator


> I've shipped rotators and other ham gear that I've sold on ebay, etc. to 
> Canada via the U.S. Postal System, filling out the customs declaration 
> with the description of the equipment, and as being "Used Amateur Radio 
> Equipment". I don't know if anyone ever wound up having to pay an 
> additional customs charge at the other end. But the buyers always asked me 
> to declare the value as just some very "minimal" amount, or list it as a 
> "gift",  for whatever I was sending. I think they were afraid that they'd 
> get dinged for an additional amount when they received it, no matter how 
> it was labeled.
> LJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Kirb Nesbitt <knesbitt@nucleus.com>
>>Sent: Feb 11, 2007 4:53 PM
>>To: TowerTalk@contesting.com
>>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator
>>
>>Yes, it has for sometime (at least stuff coming into Canada). Applies to
>>all Amateur radio electronics, however I'm not sure if this exemption
>>extends to antenna hardware. I seem to recall being dinged duty on some
>>of my Force12 stuff a few years back.
>>Don't mistake the fact that your shipment may be exempt from duties and
>>the "brokerage fees" that the carriers now like to impose irregardless.
>>They will nail you either way and it is NOT the responsibility of the
>>shipper to inform or certainly pay these fees.
>>I no longer use the brown truck boys due to their excessive fees imposed
>>at the time of delivery.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Kirb - VE6IV
>>--
>>
>>larryjspammenot@teleport.com wrote:
>>> Somewhere, I had read that when shipping "Amateur Radio Equipment" to 
>>> Canada, that it was exempt from Customs charges. Was I misinformed?
>>> LJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>> From: Alan NV8A <nv8a@att.net>
>>>> Sent: Feb 10, 2007 1:09 PM
>>>> To: towertalk reflector <towertalk@contesting.com>
>>>> Cc: Al Williams <alwilliams@olywa.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] alpha spid rotator
>>>>
>>>> I ordered my AlfaSpid at Dayton 2005. The additional shipping charge 
>>>> was
>>>> somewhat higher than the original estimate, but I do not recall 
>>>> anything
>>>> about a customs fee.
>>>>
>>>> The whole amount showed as a single charge to my credit card.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Alan NV8A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/09/07 10:56 am Al Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to hear from hams who have purchased an Alpha Spid from 
>>>>> the Canadian manufacturer as to if there was a customs charge and did 
>>>>> the manufacturer pay it or did you the customer pay it?
>>>>>
>>>>> In October 2005 my Visa statement shows that I paid $1083.99 for the 
>>>>> rotator with mouse option.  Shortly thereafter I received a bill from 
>>>>> the shipper (DHL Express) for $25.38.  My senior memory recalls that I 
>>>>> called the 800 number of the shipper and explained that the 
>>>>> manufacturer said that I wasn't responsible to pay for it and gave 
>>>>> them the manufacturers representative telephone number (I had also 
>>>>> called the manufacturer who said that there was some sort of mix-up 
>>>>> between them and the shipper)..
>>>>> Yesterday I received a bill from a collection agency in Texas for the 
>>>>> customs charge plus an additional $6.35 penalty!
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a small charge and I could just go ahead and pay it but I 
>>>>> would like to know if it is usually paid by Alpha Radio, Ltd?
>>>>>
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