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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] name that antenna
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Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:32:08 -0400 (EDT)
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Six aeronautical radio stations provide coverage of the six North Atlantic 
flight information regions:
    Bodo Radio (Norway)
    Gander Radio (Canada)
    Iceland Radio (Iceland)
    New York Radio (USA)
    Santa Maria Radio (Azores), and
    Shanwick Radio (Ireland)

Further detail is available at:

The New York Radio transmitter site is in Riverhead, NY at 40 52 54 N,
72 38 15 W.  This is a small part of the historic RCA Riverhead
receiver station and the RCA Laboratories where Harold H Beverage did
developed the Beverage antenna, other directive receiving antennas, and 
diversity reception.

The New York Radio receiver site is in Southampton, NY at 40 55 15 N,
72 23 41 W.  This is also a historic site, the location of the HF 
transmitter facilities of Federal Telegraph, later Mackay Radio, later
park of ITT.

The antennas at both Radio New York facilities are clearly visible on Google 


---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 10:39:31 -0400
>From: Jim Jarvis <>  
>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] name that antenna  
>The FAA and other countries aviation agencies still
>maintains contact with trans-oceanic flights via HF.
>For the transatlantic traffic, it's Gander NF, and 
>Shannon EI which are the comm centers.  They have similar 
>lpda's to those found in Nashua NH and Leesburg VA.
>I've also heard New York Center on the 8Megs freq, but I 
>haven't seen that site.    
>If you go to Antigua, you'll see an array of LPDA's, of a
>different design.  They use 3 structural elements, deployed
>at 120 degree increments around the central structure.  The
>forward one is longer than the two 'back' ones....and the 
>dipoles are strung between catenary wires which extend between
>the three 'booms'.  This structure can be balanced for physical 
>mass and windload.  
>I doubt that the FAA used the HF facilities for backhaul 
>between centers.  The radar info is too intense and too
>frequently updated to be supported by available HF bandwidth.
>Rather, I believe those sites are legacy/backups for the
>HF trans oceanic traffic.  
>V25EA, N2EA
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