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Re: [TowerTalk] VE3GK stacking drawing

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] VE3GK stacking drawing
From: "Peter Voelpel" <df3kv@t-online.de>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:14:34 +0200
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Yes, you will have a hole around 20° with the stack, but that would be very
well covered with the lower antenna alone up to 24°.
Setting the stack antiphase will have the maximum lobe at about 24°.
Are you sure that higher take off angles then 17° are needed for east cost
traffic?
At that angle the single low yagi is still better then the antiphase stack.

73
Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jan Erik Holm
Sent: Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2007 08:40
Cc: TOWERTALK@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] VE3GK stacking drawing

Yes very much needed, depending on antenna heights ofcourse.
Forexample, I once had a 5/5 20m stack at 100/47 ft then it wasn´t needed.
My current 20m 5/5 stack is at 130/65 ft and I couldn´t be without it. One
example, during sun spot maximum if 5/5 Yagis BIP it could be 15 dB down
compared to a 4 el Yagi at 70ft (on east coast USA) then when flipping to
BOP it could be 5 dB better at least.

73 Jim SM2EKM

PS: I remember VE3GK, it was a good fellow and a big signal.
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Tim Duffy K3LR wrote:
> Hello John!
> 
> Yes, BOP can be useful for high angle paths to Europe on 14 and 7 MHz.
> It is most useful in high sunspot years in the early afternoon.
> 
> 73!
> Tim K3LR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john@kk9a.com [mailto:john@kk9a.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 6:28 PM
> To: TOWERTALK@contesting.com
> Cc: Tim Duffy K3LR
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] VE3GK stacking drawing
> 
> When do you find the BOP useful - is it useful for DX contest?
> 
> 
> 
> To: towertalk@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] VE3GK stacking drawing
> From: "Tim Duffy K3LR"
> Reply-to: k3lr@k3lr.com
> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:38:40 -0500
> List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
> 
> Hello Stein!
> 
> Starting on page 130 of Volume 7 of the ARRL Antenna Compendium shows 
> the mono band stacking schematics I use. They are built from 1/4 wave 
> sections of RG213, RG11 and RG83. The book is available from the ARRL.
> 
> My two high stack switch design is simple using only RG-83 (35 ohm 
> coaxial
> cable) to match 2 parallel 50 ohm loads and another 1/4 wavelength of 
> RG213 is used when feeding the single Yagi's so that the line length 
> to the amplifier is not changed regardless of antenna selection. This 
> keeps the VSWR at the same point which keeps the amplifier happy 
> regardless of antenna combination.
> 
> I also have a design that incorporates a both-out-of-phase (BOP)
selection.
> This creates a high angle lobe. We use this feature on 40 and 20 meters.
> 
> I use these designs for all of my 2,3 and 4 high stacked Yagi arrays.
> 
> The secret to good Yagi monoband stacking is using exact ODD quarter 
> wavelength feedlines (current forcing) to feed the individual Yagis.
> 
> I would be happy to scan my two high design and email it to you if you
like.
> 
> 73!
> Tim K3LR
> 
> http://www.k3lr.com
> 

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