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Re: [TowerTalk] 80 meter antenna comparison

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 80 meter antenna comparison
From: K4SAV <RadioIR@charter.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:49:47 -0600
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StellarCAT wrote:
...."Interesting.... however using EZNEC and their provided 4 SQ  model 
I see different results then what your suggesting here... a DIPOLE at 
136' (what I have) out performs a 4 SQ for all angles down to about 4 
degrees! And not by a small amount. Possibly their model is not correct? 
or I am not using it properly. "......


The model included with EZNEC contains no wire losses, no transmission 
line losses, and no near field ground losses, and assumes average flat 
ground.

Jerry, K4SAV

StellarCAT wrote:

>Interesting.... however using EZNEC and their provided 4 SQ 
>model I see different results
>then what your suggesting here... a DIPOLE at 136' (what I have) 
>out performs a 4 SQ for
>all angles down to about 4 degrees! And not by a small amount. 
>Possibly their model is not
>correct? or I am not using it properly. In practice this is what 
>I have found - the dipole keeps
>up with 4 sq's often. It's only on LP and very long stuff that 
>the 4 sq tends to be better....
>this of course is hard to asset as we're talking vastly 
>different distances on these
>comparisons (not all done here or locally) .... thus my question 
>to the group for someone
>that has done it themselves.
>
>I would agree that if you had the yagi up higher - say 45M you 
>would see better performance.
>However I would be careful about going any higher than this as, 
>as I am sure you know,
> that lobe at 90 really starts to grow rapidly... wasted energy.
>
>The conclusion seems to be heavily waited towards the 4 SQ 
>end... somewhat biased by the
>human nature feeling: it's good because I can't have the other 
>(a yagi)... those that have a
>yagi often seem to suggest it IS the way to go... real estate is 
>not something I have a great
>deal of here (4A with the current tower centered so not a whole 
>lot of room left for
>anything :>). Having both however would be nice....hmmmmm....
>
>but I believe most have to agree: having a 2el 80 meter yagi
>- that monster up there - is (would be) a real grinner!
>
>g.
>K9RX 
>
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