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Re: [TowerTalk] Coax soldering

To: Pete Stark K4OM <pstark@suddenlink.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Coax soldering
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Reply-to: n4zr@contesting.com
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:40:18 -0400
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There is - you can use a dipole center insulator such as the Budwig RF-1.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 10/21/2009 6:37 PM, Pete Stark K4OM wrote:
> If only there were a device for connecting a BALanced device to an UNbalanced 
> device. We could use such a device for this problem.
>
> Pete K4OM
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: TexasRF@aol.com
>    To: pstark@suddenlink.net ; richard@karlquist.com ; W1JCW@hotmail.com
>    Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
>    Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:24 PM
>    Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Coax soldering
>
>
>    Pete, the problem is there are no instructions for connecting coax to open 
> wire.We were talking about fishing the center conductor through the braid to 
> do the job. No connector involved at all in this case.
>
>    73,
>    Gerald K5GW
>
>
>
>    In a message dated 10/21/2009 5:16:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> pstark@suddenlink.net writes:
>      I have followed the mfg instructions to the letter for almost 50 years 
> as a
>      ham and 31 in broadcast tv and radio.  Very few problems with solder or
>      crimp connectors.  When I did have a problem, it was because I didn't 
> follow
>      instructions. Directions for connectors are in the handbook.  Fishing the
>      braid thru the holes is loony.  Need heat?  Use one of the mini-torches.
>      Use flux and a little vise.
>
>
>      It is vital that instructions be followed on heliax type cable. To the
>      letter.
>
>      Pete K4OM
>
>
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From:<TexasRF@aol.com>
>      To:<richard@karlquist.com>;<W1JCW@hotmail.com>
>      Cc:<towertalk@contesting.com>
>      Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:01 PM
>      Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Coax soldering
>
>
>      >  Rick has the answer. Fishing the center conductor through the opening 
> in
>      >  the shield is easier if you provide a few inches of extra length and 
> push
>      >  the
>      >  shield up the coax so it increases diameter a bit.
>      >
>      >  The crimp terminals are ok but I personally would solder them to the 
> coax
>      >  after crimping for long term reliability. If you use ring terminals, 
> they
>      >  can be  bent with long nose pliers to fit around the open wire 
> conductors
>      >  and
>      >  then  soldered to the open wire conductors.
>      >
>      >  73,
>      >  Gerald K5GW
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >  In a message dated 10/21/2009 4:33:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>      >  richard@karlquist.com writes:
>      >
>      >  W1JCW  wrote:
>      >>
>      >>  Hi guys -
>      >>
>      >>  What is your preferred way to  solder an open wire feeder on say RG8 
> or
>      >>  RG213 ?
>      >>
>      >>  I  know some cut the brand down the middle, solder it at the base and
>      >  work
>      >>  their way to the tip.
>      >>  Some twist it then solder or  flatting it.
>      >>
>      >>  I am looking to try something  new.
>      >>
>      >>  Suggestions ?
>      >>
>      >>  73-
>      >>  W1JCW
>      >>   John
>      >
>      >
>      >  To answer the original question about lead dress on the  coax:
>      >
>      >  "Something new" (to you) is to use tweezers to displace the  braid
>      >  near the "base" (ie away from the end) such that a hole is  formed
>      >  in the braid.  This is done without cutting.  Then,  needlenose
>      >  pliers are used to grab the dielectric and yank it through  the
>      >  hole.  Sounds tricky, but I've done it dozens of times.  For  smaller
>      >  coax (up to RG58) they have a tool called a "lead extractor"  that
>      >  makes this easier.   See:
>      >
>      >  http://www.stanleysupplyservices.com/product-group.aspx?id=723
>      >
>      >  This  tool is too small for RG8, but gives you the idea of what you
>      >  want to do by  hand.
>      >
>      >  The other thing to do is install crimp terminals on the  braid
>      >  and center conductor so that you are not soldering to the  coax.
>      >
>      >  Rick  N6RK
>      >
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