Doug,
What you originally stated, and what I originally responded to, was
"real life experience which trumps any theory any day." I totally
disagree with that statement, with countless historical examples to
prove the point.
Actually, engineering DOES have all the answers given total knowledge of
conditions and proper application of theory. We don't always have that
full knowledge, of course, but that isn't the fault of "engineering" per
se. Trial and error is often what teaches us when we didn't fully
understand something, but it is engineering that lets us effectively
apply that new knowledge to the next situation.
I will agree that many things are over engineered, but everyone has
their own impression of where that line should be drawn when safety or
financial liability is involved ... such as with towers.
Dave AB7E
> Dave
>
> Where did I say that one should not engineer something? My words were
> 'over engineer'.
>
> Experience and engineering have to work together. Too many folks
> believe that 'engineering' has ALL the answers and completely discount
> experience. Engineering does not have all the answers. That is my
> point. A lot has been and is learned from 'trial and error'.
>
> Doug
>
> I'll run the race and I will never be the same again.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
> Sent: January 18, 2010 10:12 AM
> To: TowerTalk
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guying a tower....Heresy to follow..... True
> statement!
>
>
> Let me clarify for you ... there is a huge difference between not over
> engineering something and not engineering anything at all. Basing a
> decision solely upon experience falls into the category of not
> engineering anything at all, and that includes ignoring force vector
> formulas because your tower hasn't yet failed and not wearing a climbing
>
> belt/harness because you haven't yet fallen.
>
> Dave AB7E
>
>
> Doug Renwick wrote:
>
>> Most can not see any similarity between what I said and what you are
>> saying. Sheesh, why do I dislike spin doctors.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>
>
>
>
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