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Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Re Force12 C19XR

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Re Force12 C19XR
From: "Natan" <>
Reply-to: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics." <>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:39:41 -0400
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There is no performance issue to be gained by going to a sleeved type.  We 
made the change to cut down on problems because some people would have the 
two wires in the closed sleeve in every configuration but the correct one. 
With the new sleeved version you can't put it on wrong.  If you decide to 
change it, you must have longer tips too as the changed sleeve will change 
resonance.  F12 has a kit of parts that facilitates the change to the new 
closed sleeve and it has all you need.  Remember you'll get no performance 
enhancement whatsoever!


Natan W6XR

From: "Neil & Heather" <>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 7:07 PM
To: "Tower and HF antenna construction topics." <>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FW:  Re Force12 C19XR

> Natan,
> Thought you'd get a kick from that.....
> You would have really laughed if you had
> saw me just do a "Wow..I could have had a V8"
> smack to the forehead... :)
> It all makes sense now, the W6 "XR" call..
> Duh, on my part....
> Your right, what a small world.
> It does not have the "newer" closed sleeve though,
> just 2  19" lengths of solid # 12 thhn,
> If your familiar with a brand of
> romex call UF (direct bury), would
> that work as a "closed" sleeve with the
> ground (center) wire pulled out??
> Its still on the ground, so any improvements can
> be done now,and I'm wondering if the balun was
> damaged in a T-storm, Norm's QTH was definitely
> "out in the open"...on top of the hill..
> I just saw the link posted for the balun manufacturer,
> I'll bookmark it.
> Thanks again...great job on the "XR" line... :)
> 73
> Neil
> AE1P
> On 4/25/2010 6:46 PM, Natan Huffman wrote:
>> Neil,
>> It sure is a small world!  Yes, that was one of my C19XR's that I 
>> replaced
>> with a C31XR stack.  Norm purchased it from me a long time ago and he 
>> told
>> me he sold it after a problem with a storm and his tower.
>> I did the C19XR, C31XR C39XRN and co-designed the C49XR which was a
>> mechanical challenge.  Have fun with the C19XR as it is a good basic
>> antenna.  I think I replaced the original wires that run between the 10 
>> and
>> 20 meter drivers with the newer closed sleeve.
>> Thanks for the information!
>> 73
>> Natan W6XR
>> Freeville, NY
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