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Re: [TowerTalk] Inverted V for 160/80 on the same feedline

Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Inverted V for 160/80 on the same feedline
From: Jim Brown <>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:20:34 -0700
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On 4/20/2011 10:53 AM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
> This might also be called a Fan dipole.
> Can you run 160 and 80 on the same feedline with decent swr?  I have
> tried to model this and have not been very successful.

The short answer is yes, sort-of.  In general, the longer antenna will 
show the same SWR bandwdith as it would without the higher one, and the 
higher one will have it's SWR bandwidth reduced by about half. My 
experience is with 80/40 fans, and with 20/15/10 fans, and these 
characteristics show up both in the NEC models and in measurements of 
real antennas.

This is exactly the opposite of what happens with the loaded multi-band 
dipoles like those sold by Hy Power Antenna Company -- the higher band 
antenna retains full SWR bandwidth, and the lower frequency (loaded) 
band has reduced SWR bandwidth.  I've also modeled those antennas, and 
like them a lot. In boht cases, the reduced SWR bandwidth can be 
compensated with a tuner and losses minimized by using low loss feedlines.

For more detail, see my applications notes on Antennas for Limited 
Space.  There are two that compliment each other  -- one is text, the 
other a power point presentation.

73, Jim K9YC


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