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Re: [TowerTalk] FAA & Private Airstrips

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FAA & Private Airstrips
From: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 00:34:47 -0500
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My very limited flight instruction was long ago and never put to use.  I seem 
to recall that the downwind and base legs were no exception to minimum 
clearances, but I also recall that I was a great looking dude in those days and 
I doubt that was accurate either...

My sense is that a ham would have to be VERY close to an airport to be denied 
the ability to erect a typical tower.  As an example, WTRY is close to the 
Albany County NY airport and its towers (200-300 feet based on the 
illumination) are either in, or practically so, the approach/departure to 
runway 1.

At any rate, like I said, when we wanted to put up 80 foot lighting towers, the 
town wanted an opinion from the FAA and we got an answer in a couple of weeks.

Al
AB2ZY

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com 
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K8RI
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 12:10 AM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FAA & Private Airstrips

On 12/29/2011 8:25 PM, Al Kozakiewicz wrote:
> The FAA does render an opinion on these matters pretty quickly.  The youth 
> football organization I was an officer of a few years back wanted to erect 
> lights on a field which literally overlooked the Schenectady County airport.  
> There was no adverse finding.
>
> IIRC, aircraft are required to maintain a clearance of 500 feet below.  A 
> runway glidepath is an obvious exception.

So is being within 1.5 Nautical miles and practically under the 
pattern.   500 feet is the minimum altitude in sparsely settled areas, 
but the clearance to people and buildings is much greater.  I do not have the 
AIM (Airman's Information manual) handy so I can't look it up, but it's not 
applicable to aircraft landing or taking off. So at less than 1.5 miles and 
pretty much under the pattern they could be almost any altitude.

73

Roger (K8RI)  www.rogerhalstead.com
>
> FAR Part 77 covers the subject of navigation obstructions.  Here is a 
> good Powerpoint tutorial: 
> http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/NR/rdonlyres/F2C1829F-7969-4A47-ADCC-64C6B6320
> BA0/0/FAR_Part77.pdf
>
> Al
> AB2ZY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com 
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of William Hein
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:57 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] FAA&  Private Airstrips
>
> My family and I recently moved to a wonderful house in beautiful Glade Park 
> CO (on the other side of Colorado National Monument from Grand Junction.  The 
> house itself is an ultra-energy efficient Earthship (Google "Glade Park 
> Earthship" for more info).  We have 35 rural acres of land around our house 
> in a low population density rural area.  All in all it's going to be a great 
> place for ham radio.
>
> I've had stations in Malibu CA (as KC6EDP and AA6TT), Tiffany CO (as AA6TT/0) 
> and Topsham VT (AA6TT/1 and NT1Y) so I have some idea of what works and what 
> doesn't with regard to terrain, RF and the ionosphere.  In this regard my new 
> location is superb with great 'shots' to EU and JA and elsewhere and is 
> confirmed by the success the other ham who lives up here - Jerry K0DU - has 
> in contests and pileups.  I'm counting the days until the ground thaws and 
> tower construction can start in earnest - I've been off the air due to a 
> heavy workload for several years and I'm dying to be back on the air.
>
> Since moving in I've noticed a small private plane passing overhead fairly 
> low (I'd say 100 feet or less) on a regular basis and landing nearby.  
> Checking Google Maps aerial photos I discovered a small grass airstrip with a 
> windsock - "Pinyon Airport" - on what I believe is private land a little over 
> 5 km SE of me (5.586 km per Google).  The runway is not pointed towards my 
> house nevertheless seeing the plane flyover directly overhead so low motivate 
> me to Google FAA, airports and towers.  Here is a picture from Google Maps of 
> my house with a line drawn to the closest point on the airstrip:
>
>       http://www.aa7xt.com/
>
> if you want to take a gander at my place on Google Maps yourself:
>
>         39.013949 N
>       -108.744371 W
>
>       479 South 16 1/2 Road
>       Glade Park CO 81523
>
> The FAA Website TOWAIR indicated that "Structure does not require 
> registration"after I plugged in my coordinates along with elevation (6840-ft 
> ASL approx.). There are no airports within 8 kilometers (5 miles) of the 
> coordinates you provided."  TOWAIR went on to caution "TOWAIR's findings are 
> not definitive or binding".  Since "Pinyon Airport" (a rather pretentious 
> designation for a grass airstrip with a windsock) is 5.5 km away I am guess 
> it is either not registered with the FAA or somehow doesn't count as a real 
> airport.
>
> I have a 142-foot Big Bertha tower which I previously had installed in 
> Vermont which I intend to reinstall here along with at least one other 100-ft 
> + tower and a few smaller structures.  For many reasons I'd hate to see a 
> airplane run into Bertha.
>
> So what should I do now?  Contact the FAA for an opinion?  Find out who owns 
> the airstrip and give them a verbal or written heads up on my tower plans and 
> also request they avoid flying low over my house?  Something else?
>
> 73
> Bill
>
> -----
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