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Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: the future of antenna and tower inspection

To: n4zkf <towertalk@n4zkf.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: the future of antenna and tower inspection
From: "Joe Giacobello, K2XX" <k2xx@swva.net>
Reply-to: k2xx@swva.net
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:12:58 -0400
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I have two questions re this topic. Can one use a laptop or netbook rather than a tablet to control the aircraft?

There appear to be high capacity batteries available for it. Has anyone tried them? If so, what is the maximum flight time with them?

Thanks.

73, Joe
K2XX

On 4/16/2013 9:00 AM, n4zkf wrote:
I have two of these that I use for checking active bird nests on towers
before we climb up to do work. They work off my iPad and iPhone and are
pretty slick with a 720p video cam in front and a still cam in the bottom
but the battery lasts about 10 minutes and it's done. Time to bring it to
the ground.

Other than that it's a great piece of equipment. When you turn it on you
even set how high off the ground you want it to start. So it pops up to 4'
(what I have it set at) right off the bat. It's not effected by the winds
for sure. I live on the ocean.


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On 4/16/13 2:38 AM, "David Gilbert"<xdavid@cis-broadband.com>  wrote:

I think the biggest problem with a balloon or kite is that you're
totally at the mercy of the wind.  At least a copter tries to hold it's
GPS position if the winds are not too bad.  The demo video I've seen of
the OctoCopter makes it look like it has power to spare to overcome some
pretty strong winds, assuming the wind speed doesn't change too fast
(gusts) for the reaction time of the system.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 4/15/2013 10:41 PM, Jim Lux wrote:
On 4/15/13 10:33 PM, Grant Saviers wrote:
piling on,

the leads/antenna could be small gauge with power sent via high
voltages/low current, since the motors could be PWM driven with the
onboard processor or a simple buck convertor..  Taking out the LiPo
battery saves weight too.  Any Maker's that have hacked one? btw
having flown a MEMS gyro in a rocket, I don't think the MEMS gyros are
stable enough for long term unattended hover positioning, so periodic
radio position control would probably be needed, or maybe a GPS lock.


I think optical station keeping would be easiest.  Most of these
things have a video camera looking down, so what you'd do is set up a
colored target, and it would try to keep it centered.



Of course, a Kiteoon would be easier.

from TT, April 4th, 2003, WB6WIK writes
Hi Mirko,

I've paid about $200 for a kiteoon, locally.  The 8-to-9 foot diameter
WX balloons are usually about $30 each, so a kiteoon is definitely more
expensive -- but, the kiteoon is reusable, whereas the latex WX
balloons are not.  Once they stretch from use and the He starts
leaking through the latex (which it does, within about two days), the
WX balloons are good for the garbage bin.
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