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Re: [TowerTalk] Limited space for 80 and 50

To: "Stan Stockton" <wa5rtg@gmail.com>, "Jim in Waco wb5oxq" <wb5oxq_1@grandecom.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Limited space for 80 and 50
From: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:38:47 -0600
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What you want to do is pretty simple to explain - but harder to implement. You have to keep the common mode and overload issues contained - and the only way to do that (other than physical separation) is to choke it but I can tell you from personal experience that it's not a cheap process. The higher the power level, the tougher it gets.

For the gear, you say you are choking it. But the devil is in the details here. If you want to run gear near the antenna, type 31 ferrites will probably let you do that but you need to understand the threshold effect. If none of this makes sense, search on K9YC and RFI primmer.

For the antenna, dump the open wire and the shack mounted tuner. Get a remote tuner which can be mounted at the dipole feedpoint. Open wire feeders are finicky about balance and if you have things near this line, it will disturb the balance - and result in feedline radiation. Put a serious coax choke up there with the antenna (that means more ferrites - not the 6-turn air coil traditional type). There is a K9YC presentation on Coax Chokes.

73/jeff/ac0c
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-----Original Message----- From: Stan Stockton
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:38 PM
To: Jim in Waco wb5oxq
Cc: <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Limited space for 80 and 50

Jim,

You already have the vertical. Shunt feeding the existing tower is my suggestion.

Stan, K5GO

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On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:57 PM, "Jim in Waco wb5oxq" <wb5oxq_1@grandecom.net> wrote:

I have a full size 80 meter dipole at 60' in the center fed with 300 ohm window line to a good tuner with the balanced input. I cannot use it on 80 or 40 meters even at levels of 25 watts or more because of interfearance to my entertainment center despite snap on chokes on all input leads and every speaker lead and a high end ac line filter. Therefore if I want to operate any frequency below 14mhz I feel I must try a vertical in a side yard located outside the shack. The area is about 25X40 feet. Radials can be put down in that area There is a 50' tower with a triband beam in one corner of that area. No other metal is in that area. The feedline length to the shack is about 20'. There is no height restriction in this area. I only need the antenna for 75 and 40. There is a 6' tall wood privacy fence around this area. I would hope that using a vertical in this area would fix the rfi problem since the antenna would be a good 40' away from the entertainmant center whe
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as the center of the dipole is directly above it. Suggestions please. WB5OXQ
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