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Re: [TowerTalk] Drill motor

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Drill motor
From: "N2TK, Tony" <tony.kaz@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 11:48:18 -0500
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Once in a while on the used market you can find a B&D 1405 3/4" drill motor.
Runs at 375 RPM at 10A and is reversible. 
I have been using it with a B-B Brothers W200-5 (now Wintech) 30:1 worm-gear
winch for about 35 years.
Thank goodness it has a side handle because when first cranking up the tower
you really need to hang on.

The motor never runs hot. I do take 4 breaks when cranking up the tower just
to make sure guy wires, ropes and everything else is not tangled.
And B&D still services this drill motor.

73,
N2TK, Tony 

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Swadener
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 8:53 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Drill motor

IIRC, my US Tower TX-472 + Force12 C-4XL goes up/down in a little over 30
seconds, using a Milwaukee Super Hawg (pn
1680-20) that runs at 450rpm.  It pulls 13A at full load and should not be
confused with the smaller Hole Hawg. The tower uses Fulton K-2550 winches.

The only issue with taking my tower up/down in 30 seconds is, I have several
feedlines hanging off the tower, along with two wire antennas.  I HAVE TO
stop periodically in order to keep things from tangling. So far, it runs
stone cold.

I found the Super Hawg as a factory refurbished unit on eBay for a little
over $200 shipped.

vy 73,
Bryan WA7PRC
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 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:04:40 -0500
 From: Roger K8RI
 Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Drill motor
 
 On 2/20/2014 9:55 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
 > I ran across the DeWalt DWD460 drill. It draws 11 amps,  and has
continuously variable speeds in 2 ranges( 0 300 and
 0 1300 RPM). Seems like that would get away from the  overheating problem
in the worm-gear winches.
 
 There are rating and there are ratings. Most drill motors  are rated for
intermittent duty with short run times and long cooling  cycles.
 
 I purchased the largest Dewalt that Lowe's carries.  Drilling 3/4" holes
in 1/2" thick I-beam, I burned it up in less than 5 minutes  and I had  just
purchased it.
 
 Drill motors for mixing as have been listed on here may be  rated
differently, or with a larger reserve/safety factor than  those for
drilling holes.  IOW two motors rated at 13A with one  for mixing and one
for drilling may not have the same ability to raise a  tower.
 
 I've not found a correlation in the ratings.  From  experience, I've  found
a drastic difference in ratings for drill motors rated  for long  run times
VS the typical short run times for drilling  holes.
 
 I'd limit my purchases to a motor rated for long run times  such as mixing.
 
 Caveat Emptor
 
 73
 
 Roger (K8RI)
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