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Re: [TowerTalk] One off balun question

To: steve@karinya.net, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] One off balun question
From: TexasRF--- via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 12:30:33 -0400
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Steve, is equivalent C something you measure or is it calculated?
 
If measured, how do you do that? If calculated, how do you do that?
 
Thanks,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/31/2014 9:10:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
steve@karinya.net writes:

Jim,

If I wind exactly the same number of turns of the same  cable with 
identical spacing on the same-size toroids, but use two  different core 
materials, I get very different values of equivalent C. The  only thing 
that is different is the core material.

I initially  thought the dielectric effect of the core material might be 
the  significant factor; but as an experiment I built a parallel-plate,  
circular, capacitor with the toroid fitted between the plates, and  
didn't measure much change in capacitance with different  mixes.

Steve G3TXQ


On 31/10/2014 15:17, Jim Brown  wrote:
> On 10/31/2014 3:50 AM, Steve Hunt wrote:
>> If we had  a good way to predict C, predicting the CM impedance of a 
>>  particular choke design would be relatively straightforward.
>
>  Variables include the turn spacing, the diameter of the choke, 
>  diectric constant of the cable outer insulator, the dielectric 
>  constant of the core material, and the portion of the winding 
>  influenced by both. The dominant parameters are those associated with 
>  the windings and the air dielectric. You can see this if you study the  
> graphs of 1-14 turns of small wire for the various core materials  done 
> by my anonymous collaborator nearly 10 years ago. He chose to be  
> anonymous because he works in a well equipped scientific lab in a  
> major institution, and needs to avoid professional jealousies.  :)
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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