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Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Terminate braid at top of tower...or not?

To: N3AE <n3ae@comcast.net>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Terminate braid at top of tower...or not?
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 10:48:56 -0700
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I wonder about the widely shared concern about crank up section electrical continuity. Some crank up towers have hard stops and the elasticity of the hoist cable can hold them tight against the stop. Then the hoist cable itself is an electrical path. The runners *must* contact on at least one leg, there is no way a section is meta-stable free standing inside another. Perhaps the contact has some low resistance as Zn on Zn but the runners to legs have significant area to make a capacitor for rf. Plus the section overlap makes for at least two contact points between sections. Lightning will not notice these "gaps". Perhaps in a gusty wind a tower may shift enough to have variable contact paths between sections and that could cause noise issues, but then why isn't this noise heard by crank up owners on their yagis as the tower shifts its Z?

Then to address your logic, I agree that a tower must be a lower inductance path than coax given the tower effective diameter. So bonding periodically helps to insure equal (and lower) potentials to the shield. This bonding would be difficult on a crank up. I gave up on fixed standoffs that promised cable "loops on the tower, not the ground". All of my standoffs are pass through loops and I manually flake the cable bundle figure eight style on the ground.

So far, I haven't seen any data to back up the continuity concern.

Grant KZ1W


On 11/1/2014 9:44 AM, N3AE wrote:
I've always wondered about terminating coax shields on the top of a crank-up 
tower. On one hand, I think that by doing that, you're encouraging lightning 
currents to go down the coax shield as the resistance between the tower 
sections of a crank-up is likely to be larger than the coax shield (assuming 
the shield is also bonded at the bottom of the tower). But perhaps the 
inductance of the coax is larger than that of the tower so most of the 
lightning current would still traverse the tower? On the other hand, by bonding 
the coax at the bottom and not at the top, you may have flash-over issues at 
the top because of the difference in potential of the tower and the coax shield 
at the top. Maybe I'm making this more complex than it is, but my gut tells me 
it is a bit more complex than it may first seem.

All the commercial towers bond coax shields at the top, bottom and every 70-100 
ft or so, but they are not crank-ups with unknown continuity between the 
sections.

N3AE
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