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Re: [TowerTalk] Adding 160 to an 80M dipole?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Adding 160 to an 80M dipole?
From: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:10:16 -0600
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Back in the late 60's or early 70's I bought some surplus radio stuff; a Gibson Girl with a balloon with sea water activated hydrogen generator to inflate it so you could put up an antenna when there wasn't enough wind to fly the included box kite using the antenna as your kite string.

Patrick  NJ5G


On 12/17/2014 2:41 PM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
I guess I should have defined what I consider a short vertical, something
around 50' high and top loaded.  If you had a support 50' high for your
inverted V you could have used it for a vertical and then loaded it with a
wire or wires configured as either an inverted L, T or just have the wires
come back toward the ground like tower guys.  I would not expect a 20'
base loaded vertical to radiate well.

BTW one time I tried a kite at the water's edge while in Cayman Is,
unfortunately I only made a few QSOs before it dropped into the water.  It
may be something fun to try at your QTH.

John KK9A


To:     towertalk@contesting.com
Subject:        [TowerTalk] Adding 160 to an 80M dipole?
From:   RLVZ--- via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to:       RLVZ@aol.com
Date:   Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:46:34 -0500

For 160-m. I agree with John's statement below, unless the  vertical is
real short and base loaded in which case I'd prefer a low  Dipole or Inverted
Vee on if there's no better option such as a top  loaded vertical, Shunt Fed
tower, or a Slant L.  Example: one of the  first year's I came to Florida, I
mounted a very short 20' base loaded vertical  at the edge of a salt water
river that had line-of-sight  over salt-water to a large area I was trying
to work.  I also had  a low Inverted Vee for 160-m. with apex at 50' and ends
at 20'.  I  thought the short vertical would do better on DX, but the short
vertical was down 10-20dB in every case.

73, Dick- K9OM






In a message dated 12/17/2014 10:22:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
john@kk9a.com writes:

I never  had much success using a low dipole, even from the Caribbean. For
me a  short vertical with a minimal ground system worked better and it used
much  less real estate.

John  KK9A

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