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Re: [TowerTalk] Finally got my crank up tilt over

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Finally got my crank up tilt over
From: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:32:53 -0600
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1st, ME TOO! My new Tashjian (used to be Tri-Ex) DX70 arrived yesterday. Yahoo!

I can find no instructions for anything regarding this tower. I understand the acute sensitivity to the common litigious behavior that has become the norm but gee whiz, I would like some guidance as it could save me some suffering from an unseen problem or avert some dumb thing I might do for not knowing any better. So I am appealing for any comments from anyone familiar with this free standing crank-up/tilt-over tower.

OK back to Joel's situation: I removed a worn out rusty hand winch from a two section tower that I was customizing and replaced it with a Harbor Freight 120 volt hoist and am pleased with the results. My objection to the little winches intended for off road automotive service is that they are all 12 volt and serious current at 12 volts as can be supplied briefly by a good battery but would take a humongous power supply which to conform to good practice would require the low volt PS to be near the load because long cables would have to be huge to avoid serious voltage drop. You can't have the PS next to all three guy anchor locations. So 3 power supplies, or three batteries would be needed and you would have to run AC to each PS.

Much simpler would be to use 120VAC hoists or winches. Not enough line pull? Use a snatch block and double it or a multi-part block and tackle for serious multiplication.

A rig like this will give you multiple opportunities to "mess up" but with care should do what you want nicely. Best of luck to you. Please report back what you decide to do and how it worked out.

Patrick        NJ5G

On 2/16/2016 10:42 AM, Joel Wilson wrote:
Finally got my crank up tilt over tower.  54', 3 sections, guyed and fairly 
heavy duty.  It's an old Tri Ex TH 354 which I can find very little info on.  
What I'm planning on doing is replacing the hand winch with an ATV winch with 
braking.  Superwinch makes a 3000lb one.

http://www.amazon.com/Superwinch-1130220-LT3000ATV-fairlead-handlebar/dp/B0034ZUZM6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_469_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=51GD794UKQL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1BCD5F92M22MGCQCZ87E

What I'm curious about is what about using ATV winches for the guy wires?  I 
have a couple reasons for wanting this.  I want to do some experiments with 
antenna height and I still need to guy the tower off but want to be able to guy 
it off fairly quickly.  With the winches, I could run all the power leads to 
one spot and be able to put a level on the tower as I tighten the winches one 
by one being careful not to torque the whole thing down.

If anyone has any tips I'm all ears and any info on this tower like wind 
loading would be most appreciated.

Joel
norcal
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