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Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Lifting a mast off the rotator

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Lifting a mast off the rotator
From: Bob K6UJ <k6uj@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:58:08 -0700
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Grant,

Thanks for the video on Nord-Lock.
I am impressed with the product.  I was surprised that the lock nut option
didn't secure better in the tests. I always thought this was the most secure method.
You learn something new everyday !
This topic is very timely for me. I am getting ready to install an Orion 2800 myself.


73,
Bob
K6UJ


On 4/25/16 7:41 AM, Grant Saviers wrote:
The used OR-2800 was driving a 3" mast, but I have one driving a 2" without a centering block w/o problems (so far) but a bigger load is going onto the 2" mast shortly.

Medium strength Loctite is a good idea if the internal threads can be degreased. Instead of a split ring washer, I use Nord-Locks for critical fasteners. Check out their video re locking fastener tests.

http://cdn.nord-lock.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Nord-Lock-Junker-test-HD_1280x720.mp4

Grant KZ1W

On 4/24/2016 21:00 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 20:05:13 -0700
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
To: Les Kalmus <w2lk@bk-lk.com>, TOWERTALK@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk]  Lifting a mast off the rotator
Les,

On a used 2800 I acquired the prior owner had secured a cut off box end
wrench on the center bolt with a screw through the wrench handle and
threaded into the Orion plate about 2" out from the bolt, oriented so
the split mast clamp clears the wrench.   Now I know why he did that.

Grant KZ1W

## slick idea, but it wont work if the optional m2 self centering 1/2 inch thick, triangular chunk of AL is used. When the self centering device is use, a really long 1/4-20 SS bolt is provided.... to get from top of self centering block.... all the way through the block, then to the threads in the steel base plate.

## I have 2 of the OR-2800 rotors.... and the self centering block is only required if a 2 inch mast is used. And even then, its really not required with a 2 inch mast.

## The self centering block is pyramid shaped, and the entire block fits inside a 2 inch mast. Dunno if it will still fit inside a 2 inch mast, that has a .375 wall thickness.

## If a 2 inch mast used, the clamp would normally be adjusted so its just a bit bigger than 2 inch. If 2 x thrust bearings are used, the self centering device is def not required.

## I would not use it. Instead use the shorter 1/4-20 bolt.... but use some blue loctite on the threads. Purple locite is slightly weaker than blue loctite..and will also work. Or at least use a SS split ring lockwasher on top of a SS fllatwasher, below the bolt head.

## the scissor jack is a good idea. The simple bottle jacks will also work, but have a limited amount of vertical lift distance. Cheap, and available from 1/2 to 20 ton. The issue with bottle jacks is: you can precisely control the lifting function..... but when u go to let it down, it comes down quickly.

Jim  VE7RF

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