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Re: [TowerTalk] Booms

To: Jim Thomson <jim.thom@telus.net>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Booms
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 09:47:50 -0800
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On 3/11/2017 8:16 AM, Jim Thomson wrote:
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:12:43 -0600
From: Ed Karl <edk0kl@centurytel.net>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Booms

Hey Troops-

I've been around for a while, always wondered about this. Looking at the
discussion
of square vs round booms. How come the elements are on top of the round
boom?
Seems like less inclination to rotate out of alignment if they were
already on the bottom ...

ed K0KL.

##  Nobody mounts els on top of the round booms, they all mount below.

>> guess I've been doing it wrong, but it sure is easier.
Since the els sag at their tips, I see no advantage to mounting els  below
the round or square boom.  With eles  mounted below a boom,   you now have
the entire weight of the ele, plus any ice loading, sitting on the mounting 
bolts,
like those used on stauff clamp assy..which are only the .25 – 20 variety.
If els mounted on top, you have zero weight on the bolts, or u bolts.
Thats not that big a deal, except for maybe 40m eles, in
which case you would have at least 2 x ss  u bolts on each side..or a min of 2 x
stauff clamps per side.
I think you will have a pile of aluminum rubble long before the usual boom bolts fail - eg 1/4-20 for 10 or 15 for 2" booms, 3/8-16 or 1/2-13 HDG u-bolts for 20/40 for 3" booms and 1/2-13's thru bolts for machined double saddles 80m 3" booms.

##  I would still like to know if I have the maths correct  as far as a 4 inch 
round boom
vs  a 3 inch square boom.
Engineering Calculator agrees with your numbers below

## A 3 inch square boom has a section modulus of   1.323
A 4 inch round boom has a section modulus of 1.45

## A 3 inch rectangular boom that is say has 40 ft long has a projected area of 
exactly 10 sq ft.
A 4 inch round boom that is the same 40 ft long has a projected area of exactly 
 13.332 sq ft.

##  Both latest eia- tia  and also ubc-97 D specs say to multiply any flat 
surface  by 2.0
Round tubes are multiplied by just 1.2

##  so the effective area of the 3 inch sq boom ends up being  10 x 2 =  20 sq 
ft.
The effective area of the 4 inch round boom ends up being  13.332 x 1.2  =  
15.998 sq ft
20  / 15.998    =  25%  more effective surface area for the 3 inch sq boom.

## Bending moment of a cylinder or tube is just section modulus X yield 
strength.   This is how they
calculate  the max stress where your mast enters the top of the tower, or at 
any point along the length
of a yagi ele.   Of course, with greater effective surface areas and or longer 
eles or a longer tower mast, the
stress increases fast like.
IF the same format Is used for  square  tubing, then the round boom reigns 
supreme..hands down.  Round boom
has a bigger section modulus... by 9.6 %.   1.45 / 1.323 = 1.09599  = 9.6%     
The sq boom has 25 %  more effective surface area.

##  mounting els  to a round or sq boom is a no brainer, several methods will 
work on each type.   Thats a moot point.
If Im correct, I see no advantage to the square boom.   Its a helluva lot 
weaker vs a round boom, assuming the circumference
and yield strength is identical in both cases.....and both booms are the  same 
length.
Although it might be easier to compress beyond yield stress a round boom with a u-bolt then a square boom with a plate and two bolts. Seen it done. U-bolts are sloppy fits and place all the boom stress at two points - flat boom to element plate and crest of the u-bolt. Why DX Eng saddles or custom made bored split saddles are much superior ways to clamp to booms.

4" x .125" wall tube intuitively to me feels a bit fragile re damage from clamping or handling. Internally sleeving the center of a 3" boom seems to me a better approach than increasing the diameter. Internal sleeving works (ie add up the modulus) for round or square tube per Leeson's analysis. One drawback for 3" and larger is the lack of 0.120" wall, at least I've never found it. So the joiners for long 3" booms need to be machined to slip fit, eg 2.750 x .250 wall turned to something smaller od. btw I have a few to spare of such joiners.

Square booms are a winner for vhf/uhf. Drill holes thru and insulate elements or not with plastic bushings and a threaded hole on top or bottom to secure the element with a screw.

Grant KZ1W

Jim  VE7RF

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