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Re: [TowerTalk] Self Supporting Tower Install

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Self Supporting Tower Install
From: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 07:55:58 -0500
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I was given the option of a rectangular rebar cage intended for a 4x4x8 ft hole or a rebar cage intended for a round 5 ft diameter hole 8 ft deep. I found 2 sources for the round hole drilling. The less expensive one wanted over $2000 to drill the hole and I would be responsible for replacing any teeth on his tool if any were damaged and if he got stuck at my tower site I was responsible for paying to get him out.

An experienced local operator dug my rectangular hole with a back hoe for $85.

The round hole may have been more perfect but after struggling through about a millisecond of internal debate I chose the backhoe.

Patrick        NJ5G



On 5/11/2017 11:00 PM, jimlux wrote:
On 5/11/17 8:33 PM, Lee K. Brown MD via TowerTalk wrote:
I recently moved my US Tower crank-up from my old QTH to my new QTH,
While the tower had been originally installed with the usual
rectangular concrete base specified by the P.E. that US Tower used to
wet stamp the plans for me, the P.E. that I engaged for the
re-install locally specified a cylinder of concrete. Apparently not
unusual at all.

there's a well developed process for drilling round holes (caissons) for
supports for things like traffic lights, etc. A machine comes out and
drills a 3-4 foot diameter hole, you drop the rebar cage in, fill with
concrete, etc.

Works nicely in places without a lot of room (e.g. a sidewalk), if you make the column deep, it can support an enormous moment (there's several traffic signals spanning 3-4 lanes near my house doing this, the cantilever loads must be huge with a fairly heavy left turn signal hanging out 4 lanes in)

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