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Re: [TowerTalk] Solid Tower Ground Wires

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Solid Tower Ground Wires
From: "Mike & Becca Krzystyniak" <k9mk@flash.net>
Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 10:02:49 -0500
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Got it..  Thanks everyone...

Mike K9MK

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mac
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 2:54 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Solid Tower Ground Wires

This wire is fine , it is hard drawn Vs. soft drawn is all..  Use it and 
be glad you got for free i guess ..

mac/mc  w5mc

On 5/18/2019 6:55 AM, Mike & Becca Krzystyniak wrote:
> Greetings,
>
>     This wire was a barn find.  It ws coiled up in the rafters for storage
> many years ago by an in-law.
>     My guess is that it was up there for 40+ years.
>
>     I just checked and the wire I have is not magnetic. I even checked using
> one of those super magnets.
>     The wire core looks reddish brown, and is distinct from the shiney copper
> shell or margins.
>
>     For grins I ran to Home Depot and the solid #4/#6 wire they sell there
> looks the same, similar structure including the colored core.
>     Of course the sales guy knows nothing (and I really wouldn't expect him
> too).
>
>     I guess I got some specification digging to do.  I have about a 50' coil.
>     Maybe the best thing to do is just get new copper stranded wire so I know
> what I have and put this stuff back in the barn.
>     
>     Thanks again to all for the comments, pictures, links, and diagnostic
> suggestions.
>
> 73  Mike K9MK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> jimlux
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 1:39 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Solid Tower Ground Wires
>
> On 5/17/19 8:39 AM, Mike & Becca Krzystyniak wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>>     As I install my new tower, I was dropping some ground rods next to the
>> base and acquired some #6 solid copper wire to make the connections (or so
> I
>> thought).
>>
>>     When I went to cut the wire I found out that it had a hard core, most
>> likely steel.
> Sounds like copper clad steel (aka Copperweld)..
>
> How much did you pay for the wire (per pound) compared to the price of
> copper?  (about $2/lb today) That will give you a hint, 100ft is about 8
> pounds, so you'd expect it to be at least $16.  Home Depot is selling 50
> ft of AWG 6 for $37 (which is pretty expensive) or 500 ft for $237 ($6/lb)
>
>
>>     I'm not sure this is plated as the outer copper ring is a substantial
>> portion of the cross section.
> 40% copperclad steel would have a moderately layer of copper AWG 6 is
> 0.162" in diameter and 1 ohm/1000 ft.
> AWG 10 solid wire is 1 ohm/1000 ft and is 0.1" in diameter
>
> So the cross sectional area of the copper for 40% CCS should be about
> the same as for AWG 10 - it works out to  cladding thickness of about 17
> mils (out of 162 mil diameter) - so that's pretty thin..
> Is that what it looks like?
>
>
>
>>     As I'm not familiar with the applicatio of this type of wire I wonder
> if
>> it is acceptable for the grounding connection between the tower and the
>> ground rod?
>>
>>     Thoughts or comments please.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Mike K9MK
>>
>>
>>
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