Hi Dean,
Typical M/S requires that all contacts must be on the same band for some
minimum time (typ 10min) or some maximum number of band changes per hour.
That essentially disallows SO2R operation. Yet, a second operator can (in
most cases) operate a mult radio in parallel with a run station. That, in
my mind, is NOT a single station operation. A M/S should be a single
station operated by one person at a time. The station may have more than
one radio, but only one signal. I know that's debatable, and it's a more
strict definition of M/S.
As the administrator of CQP at the time, we changed the rule to allow SO2R
in a M/S category. The CQP rule is that you are allowed as many band
changes per hour as you need. BUT only ONE operator may operate the station
during any 10 minute period. A second station hunting mults is not allowed.
That is, there is only ONE chair and once an operator change occurs, that
operator must stay in the chair at least 10 minutes. No one else can
transmit.
The main objection to this rule is that it cannot be confirmed easily just
by looking at the log.
That's true, but then there are many other rules we take as standard that
also cannot be confirmed just by looking at the log. We trust the
operator's integrity in these regards. This is, after all, a hobby. While
cheating can occur, it can also occur in many other contesting facets that
we all take for granted. So far, there has not been a cheating problem.
73, Alan AD6E / KH6TU
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Dean St. Hill <dmsthill@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan
>
> Could you be a bit more explanatory.
>
> I don't really see the logic of entering M/S as a SO2R. Working SO2R gives
> you the best of all worlds. As far as I am aware (at least in CQWW) SO2R is
> pretty much limitless and has no bandchange rules.
>
> M/S for a single op would have some practical limits but would allow you
> to have more than one signal on the air at a time (on the mult band you
> could TX at the same time as the run radio). It would also allow for
> assistance presumably from the clusters.
>
> Also to my best knowledge there are significant differences between M/S
> for ARRL and CQWW contests generally.
>
> Dean - 8P6SH
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Alan Maenchen <ad6e@arrl.net> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like CQ (and ARRL) should adopt the M/S rule that has worked so
>> well
>> in CQP for many years now:
>> The 10 min rule applies to the person sitting in the chair (ONE chair!) ..
>> not the logged band. This allows M/S with an SO2R station. It's a LOT more
>> fun.
>>
>> 73, Alan AD6E / KH6TU
>>
>>
>>
>> > Rick..
>> > I do this exact thing.... 1 computer, one keyboard, two radios running
>> > SO2R on RTTY. (But I run SO2R Single operator). First suggestion, read,
>> > read, and read more, then configure and test, configure and test and
>> > configure and test.
>> >
>> > If you don?t take/make the time to figure it out, and now how it works,
>> > you wont be able to fix it when it doesn't work. It?s like anything
>> else,
>> > it?s a learning curve.
>> >
>> > A days of reading and note taking, and searching with Google will get
>> you
>> > rally close.
>> >
>> > In multi op, it?s better to use 2 separate computers because a second
>> op
>> > can work mults on another band. A second op position is a necessity so
>> they
>> > can just sit and DIG for mults.
>> >
>> > lots of info here: http://www.cqww.com/rules_faq.htm
>> >
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Jim W7RY
>> >
>> >
>> > From: mailto:N1MMLoggerplus@yahoogroups.com
>> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 9:59 AM
>> > To: N1MMLoggerplus@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: [N1MMLoggerplus] CQWW Multi-Single with One Chair
>> >
>> >
>> > As a newbie to N1MM (either flavor), I'm seeking advice on how to
>> > configure Plus for a multi-op with one chair in front of an SO2R station
>> > with one computer - just a few ops sharing a capable, single-position
>> > station. The program seems to understand two networked stations, one
>> > designated Run and the other designated Mult, but my station isn't set
>> up
>> > that way. At issue is tracking the 10-minute rule which, in our case,
>> needs
>> > to be per-radio instead of per-computer. Any suggestions?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > /Rick N6XI
>> >
>> >
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