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81. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:13:24 -0400; No! When used properly SO2R is nothing more than a way to change bands quickly. If the operator has the hardware and skill to to that legally there is nothing wrong with SO2R. If the operator lacks; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00180.html (10,162 bytes)
82. Re: [RTTY] BARTG 75 Sprint (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:18:22 -0400; OK, then change my references to 75 7S2 (75 baud, 7 data bits, SPACE parity, two stop bits) ... that would be equivalent to 75 8N2 as long as none of the "extended" characters are used. 73, ... Joe,; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00181.html (12,051 bytes)
83. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:32:33 -0400; That's correct they're switching back and forth quickly enough that there is no "down time" on either frequency. A LEGAL SO2R operator will still not transmit on both frequencies at the same time but; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00186.html (10,034 bytes)
84. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:47:00 -0400; Marty, Like you I'm tired of the semi-annual attack on SO2R operators and those who use every alleged instance of cheating as a pretense to attack SO2R. And the answer to that is "so what?" Nowhere e; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00188.html (12,815 bytes)
85. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:22:42 -0400; There is no contest that has a "multi-transmitter" class for single operators. Even for multi-operator classes the class is based on the number of simultaneous SIGNALS not the number of transmitters; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00190.html (15,857 bytes)
86. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:39:20 -0400; "There is no way that someone with a trap vertical and a low wire should be up against those with stacks of monobanders on multiple towers. The station with multiple monoband stacks has an advantage; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00196.html (8,953 bytes)
87. Re: [RTTY] cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:51:35 -0400; I'm not saying that it is not an advantage although there are single radio stations that regularly outscore two radio stations. A big part of the difference is still operator skill - a skilled opera; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00204.html (11,345 bytes)
88. Re: [RTTY] cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:05:05 -0400; Let's see ... How about, "If you've got the time, money and skill needed to set up multiple towers with multiple stacked arrays, that's fine. But don't expect to be in competition with someone with a; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00217.html (12,346 bytes)
89. Re: [RTTY] cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:31:36 -0400; Of course Bill is a notoriously anti-technology and anti-SO2R with nothing useful to add to the discussion. He's practiced "if you don't like the message, attack the messenger" for a long time. Anyon; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00220.html (10,464 bytes)
90. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:11:08 -0400; Yes, there is a big difference between legal SO2R (one signal at a time) and multi-transmitter (multiple signals at a time which is what STARTED this thread). Of course, Bill knows the difference. H; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00223.html (10,250 bytes)
91. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:17:34 -0400; Number of operators is multi-operator - not single operator. SO2R is not an applicable issue in multi-operator classes. Beside that when did operators become "hardware?" As to power, that's not spec; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00225.html (11,795 bytes)
92. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:37:09 -0400; High Power/Low Power is an artifact of the 1950's in an attempt to "level the playing field" but it was never extended to other areas of hardware (like antennas in the 60's and computers in the 70's; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00231.html (9,520 bytes)
93. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 01:29:50 -0400; As usual it is Bill that is trying to cloud the issue. SO2R does not even require two transceivers - it only takes the ability to listen on one band while transmitting on another and change bands ra; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00239.html (9,630 bytes)
94. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 02:26:46 -0400; Let's look at other things that reduce the what an operator has not do ... 1) computer logging - no more writing in the log while trying to work a station 2) computer generated CW, computer generate; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00240.html (9,109 bytes)
95. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:06:43 -0400; Separation (also known as segregation, separate but equal, apartheid, etc.) is bigotry whether it is practiced in public policy or in radiosport. A single operator is a single operator whether he us; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00257.html (10,814 bytes)
96. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:10:37 -0400; Bull crap ... I've been a contester far longer than I've distributed microHAM products in North and South America. I also sell far more single radio product than SO2R product by a ratio of several h; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00259.html (10,873 bytes)
97. Re: [RTTY] Cheating (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:22:06 -0400; Sometimes it's appropriate to call a thing for what it is. You can't expect to discriminate against one group of single operators simply because you don't like their choice of technique. 73, ... Joe,; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00265.html (9,737 bytes)
98. Re: [RTTY] Cheating - (No Scratch that make it - "Whining") (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 02:01:00 -0400; Mike, My replies to Bill were only in response to his whinny "I don't want to have to compete against 'their kind'" nonsense. Like SO2R or not, use SO2R or not, operators who use SO2R are just as muc; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00313.html (11,449 bytes)
99. Re: [RTTY] SO2R (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:45:15 -0400; Jim, Yes, SO2R is the same as single operator - that's why it is called "Single operator, two radio." No, they are not multi-operator, There is only ONE person/operator involved. This is the same old; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00320.html (9,978 bytes)
100. Re: [RTTY] SO2R (score: 1): Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>; Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:39:53 -0400; No - that's the point it is not multi-operator. It is *one* operator alternating between two radios. While the technique of listening to multiple radios at the same time, even listening on one radio; /archives//html/RTTY/2010-06/msg00331.html (11,785 bytes)

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