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41. Re: [TowerTalk] vertical antenna ground loss (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:50:19 +0000
Jim - the 20ft height of your vertical is obviously an advantage. Lest anyone misunderstands me: I'm not saying the dipole is always better than the vertical - I'm trying to highlight the dangers of
/archives//html/Towertalk/2008-12/msg00156.html (11,572 bytes)

42. Re: [TowerTalk] vertical antenna ground loss (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:50:37 +0000
Dennis, EZNEC modelling certainly doesn't confirm what you are saying. I just modelled a 40m horizontal half-wave 33ft above average ground - the optimum take-off angle was 66 degrees. Then I modelle
/archives//html/Towertalk/2008-12/msg00321.html (10,450 bytes)

43. Re: [TowerTalk] vertical antenna ground loss (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:42:32 +0000
Denny, Do you have a specific Cebik article in mind? I'm pretty familiar with his work and I just re-read his 5-part article on modelling 160m verticals, but I can't immediately see anything that sug
/archives//html/Towertalk/2008-12/msg00355.html (8,805 bytes)

44. Re: [TowerTalk] vertical antenna ground loss (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:27:46 +0000
Denny, I've spent some more time wading through LB's pages, but I'm struggling to find anything that suggests he thinks the modelling might not be valid. The most pertinent page "Horizontal vs.Vertic
/archives//html/Towertalk/2008-12/msg00365.html (10,943 bytes)

45. Re: [TowerTalk] what size wire for kilowatt TX ?? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:46:44 +0000
Nope - the current will be much higher in an electrically short antenna. What matters is not its high reactance - that will get tuned out by the matching circuitry - but the low radiation resistance
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00057.html (8,298 bytes)

46. Re: [TowerTalk] what size wire for kilowatt TX ?? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 09:15:50 +0000
Martin, with respect this is completely wrong. Take a simple example of a shortened dipole that's only a quarter-wavelength overall length. It has a feedpoint impedance of about 13-j750. If this ante
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00069.html (10,736 bytes)

47. Re: [TowerTalk] what size wire for kilowatt TX ?? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:13:23 +0000
To further illustrate what is happening here, I took my "quarter-wave" dipole example, matched it with a simple L network at 30 MHz (series 4.1uH inductor and shunt 180pF capacitor) and looked at the
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00073.html (12,031 bytes)

48. Re: [TowerTalk] what size wire for kilowatt TX ?? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:54:12 +0000
Dave, I don't know of any programme that will calculate the voltages and currents - I just did it the "hard way" with Smith Chart and a pocket calculator :) If you simply want to see what sort of com
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00074.html (9,708 bytes)

49. Re: [TowerTalk] what size wire for kilowatt TX ?? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:01:13 +0000
Apologies - that was the local link on my PC! The Tuner simulator is at: http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/tuner/tuner.html 73, Steve G3TXQ _______________________________________________ ________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00075.html (9,285 bytes)

50. Re: [TowerTalk] what size wire for kilowatt TX ?? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:49:08 +0000
Jim, Nope! [13-j750] is the equivalent SERIES representation of the feedpoint impedance, so the same 8.7 Amps flows through the resistive part AND the reactive part; there is no 500 Amps flowing anyw
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00081.html (11,019 bytes)

51. Re: [TowerTalk] what size wire for kilowatt TX ?? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:57:24 +0000
Bud, There's no mystery - the other 860 Watts gets dissipated in the 2.4 Ohms loading coil loss resistance and the 4 Ohms Ground loss assumed by HI-Q. The maths all hangs together: Efficiency = Rrad/
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00082.html (9,696 bytes)

52. Re: [TowerTalk] what size wire for kilowatt TX ?? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:52:03 +0000
Martin, I'm happy we can agree, and draw a line under this. I only joined the discussion to challenge your original statement that: "This all assumes you're talking about a full size dipole. If your
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00096.html (9,488 bytes)

53. Re: [TowerTalk] Inverted L longer than 1/4 wave. (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:51:55 +0000
John, No, an inverted L doesn't need to be resonant. Increasing the total length raises the radiation resistance, and that may help the efficiency if you have a "less than perfect" ground system. How
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00293.html (9,068 bytes)

54. Re: [TowerTalk] Wire Diameter and Signal Gain (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:19:31 +0000
Not even that! EZNEC says 0.04dB going from #14 to #6 on a 20m dipole. 73, Steve G3TXQ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailin
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00317.html (7,953 bytes)

55. Re: [TowerTalk] Wire Diameter and Signal Gain (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:28:59 +0000
Mike, So 0.08dB going from #14 to 2". Not sure about the accuracy when dealing with such small numbers. More significant is the increase in bandwidth caused by the thicker conductors. The improvement
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00334.html (7,926 bytes)

56. Re: [TowerTalk] Wire Diameter and Signal Gain (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:28:11 +0000
Dan, I'm using lots of segments - 10 times as many as the EZNEC Conservative Auto Segmentation. Lossless Average Gain is 0.00dB Convergence testing - doubling the number of segments makes no differen
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-01/msg00337.html (8,643 bytes)

57. Re: [TowerTalk] 43' Vertical - Feed Point Tuner or Shack Tuner? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:46:56 +0000
Worst case impedance looks to be on 12m where the losses in 125ft of RG213 would be 6.3dB Steve G3TXQ _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ T
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-02/msg00014.html (8,934 bytes)

58. Re: [TowerTalk] 43' Vertical - Feed Point Tuner or Shack Tuner? (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:54:56 +0000
Should have said that the matched loss, using the tuner at the feedpoint, would have been 1.2dB. So, tuner in the shack is worse by about 5dB Steve G3TXQ _____________________________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-02/msg00015.html (9,583 bytes)

59. Re: [TowerTalk] cage dipole (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:21:42 +0000
Jim, I very nearly sent off my 350 dollars to get the 12dB, but then I realised I'd have trouble matching to the cage dipole. To quote their web site: "The cage antenna has 1/6th of the radiation res
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-03/msg00085.html (8,810 bytes)

60. Re: [TowerTalk] dx blaster antenna (score: 1)
Author: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:45:55 +0000
That just illustrates how silly some of this stuff can get! An increase in power from 80W to 500W is about 8dB. That would show up as just over 1 S-unit on a meter calibrated at 6dB/S-unit. 5 S-units
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-03/msg00119.html (7,674 bytes)


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