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1. [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: n7ka@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:58:37 +0000
Getting ready to install another 6M yagi here and building another for a friend. Want to use a choke on the feed line which will be either RG-213 (MIL-C-17 compliant) or on LMR-400UF (super flex). In
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00938.html (7,362 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:58:29 -0400
That is a 43 mix and a good choice; that is what I use on my 6M yagis. Six to eight is adequate. Carl KM1H _______________________________________________ ____________________________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00941.html (8,341 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:12:53 -0700
You can also use a larger diameter toroid and run multiple turns of your coax through it. The inductance of the choke goes as the square of the number of turns, so 5 turns through one core is like 25
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00943.html (8,591 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "Rick Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:04:21 -0700 (PDT)
This approach is good on HF, but on 6 meters, with RG213, the trouble is that the minimum bend radius of the RG213 coax forces rather large loops. When the total length of coax is too long in terms o
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00945.html (9,654 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:05:03 -0400
It aint easy getting 5 turns of RG-213 thru a 2.4" OD dia toroid! The definitve tests for Fairite 43 Mix beads as a sleeve balun was done in the early 80's and published in Scuttlebut and most likely
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00946.html (10,890 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:27:11 -0700
It doesn't matter -- it's RESISTANCE we want, not inductance. But 6 meters IS a challenge for a choke balun (it's also quite a challenge to measure). As Jim Lux suggested, a multi-turn choke WILL wor
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00948.html (9,260 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "Mark" <n2qt@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:28:13 -0400
I've used RG142 which is Teflon insulated for high power use but still small in diameter (like rg58). I find that cutting the jacket off allows it to bend enough to fit a 2.4 in toroid pretty easily.
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00949.html (12,302 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:48:49 -0400
On higher HF and 6M simply winding all the turns in one direction adds a lot of capacitance which defeats the effectiveness. Using RG-142 or RG-303 has been popular for decades on these toroids. Wind
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00952.html (13,950 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:42:13 -0700
Good point, and that's probably why the measured data shows less improvement for the higher frequencies (as well as the other issues). That's the great thing about (the other) Jim's paper, he has all
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00957.html (9,773 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:59:26 -0700
not all that tough. I've got one sitting here in front of me. Don't do it outside on a cold day, though. Jim Brown's paper has very high quality measurements done with traceably calibrated lab gear (
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00958.html (9,733 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:07:35 -0700
I wonder if this can be quantified.. Say you have two pieces of coax side by side that are 1 meter long (about 1 foot loop diameter). Say the spacing is twice the thickness of the jacket.. call it 2
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00959.html (9,236 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:38:26 -0700
Yes, but resistance doesn't go up as N squared either. Rick N6RK _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@cont
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00960.html (8,714 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: Ian White GM3SEK <gm3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:20:12 +0100
Capacitance between turns always exists, which is what creates the large peak in common-mode impedance at resonance. This is particularly desirable for a monoband antenna because the peak can be plac
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00961.html (11,424 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:12:58 -0400
By going from the conventional to the crossover method I was able to get a G5RV to cooperate that I was using at the summer cottage decades ago. No amount of twidling of the conventional turns worked
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00963.html (13,162 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:15:54 -0400
My shop currently has a 8757A, 8753B and an assortment of SA's, sig gens, sweeper, NF meter, cal sets, etc. Older technology but more than adequate for my needs. Plus they show up at rather distress
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00966.html (10,348 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: Ian White GM3SEK <gm3sek@ifwtech.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:02:41 +0100
That can easily happen, as the equivalent lumped capacitance is only a few pF so the resonant frequency is extremely sensitive to small variations in strays. Even a twisted-wire 'gimmick' capacitor c
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00968.html (10,341 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:25:53 -0700
Yes. I've devised a method of winding transmitting baluns using coax the size of RG8 and RG8X that minimizes the stray capacitance and results in multi-turn chokes that have relatively high choking i
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00970.html (9,769 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:25:28 -0700
Until the 8510 breaks, since Agilent doesn't support them anymore, even for repairs. (I have an 8510C in the lab here at work, and it has a strange lockup problem...) More power to them. They can put
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00975.html (12,709 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] Ferrite beads for common mode current (score: 1)
Author: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:42:21 -0400
Until someone comes out with a VNA that does excellent work thru 24GHz for $1000 I'll have to rely on the old workhorse. Im very familiar with the 8510, used it and the other models I have for many
/archives//html/Towertalk/2007-07/msg00995.html (9,985 bytes)


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