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1. [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Barber <audioguy@q.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:51:44 -0700
Assuming adequate core/wire sizing and airflow, can anyone think of a solid reason *not* to design a legal-limit HF amp output tank for 200 ohms, then use a 4:1 "un-un" transformer to step it down to
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00350.html (7,419 bytes)

2. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Jim W7RY <w7ry@centurytel.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 06:31:44 -0700
What kind of power? What plate voltage and current on the tube? 73 Jim W7RY I'm curious because doing so would bring the loading cap requirement for a 4000-ohm plate impedance down to under 1000pF at
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00352.html (8,214 bytes)

3. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:27:35 -0500
Didnt the QRO 2500 have this format? 73/jeff/ac0c www.ac0c.com alpha-charlie-zero-charlie What kind of power? What plate voltage and current on the tube? 73 Jim W7RY I'm curious because doing so woul
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00353.html (9,002 bytes)

4. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Barber <audioguy@q.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 08:28:58 -0700
1500 watts 4kV, 625mA Single 8877 at around 4000 ohms plate impedance in AB2. Tnx, Jim N7CXI Sent from mobile wireless -- Original message -- From: Jim W7RY <w7ry@centurytel.net> Date: 10/20/2013 6:3
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00354.html (9,486 bytes)

5. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:41:50 -0400 (EDT)
Maybe it did because Ray Cronin and Pat Stein were partners in Command Tech years ago so perhaps that is true. Not 100% sure though. Didnt the QRO 2500 have this format? Didnt the QRO 2500 have this
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00355.html (9,940 bytes)

6. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Bill Turner <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 10:03:57 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) REPLY: If the only reason to do this is to use a smaller load capacitor, I would suggest instead to switch in some doorknob type padder caps instead. IMO, a pi-net
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00356.html (8,619 bytes)

7. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: peter chadwick <g8on@fsmail.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:36:50 +0200
probably best done with a transmission line transformer, using a 100 ohm line - maybe 91 ohm coax? But I read somewhere that it is not as forgiving on SWR as the classical way, plus of course, the lo
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00357.html (8,079 bytes)

8. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@ludens.cl>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:44:32 +0000
Jim, Assuming adequate core/wire sizing and airflow, can anyone think of a solid reason *not* to design a legal-limit HF amp output tank for 200 ohms, then use a 4:1 "un-un" transformer to step it do
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00358.html (9,434 bytes)

9. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Barber <audioguy@q.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 12:30:48 -0700
Thanks for the replies. Notables are: (1) Higher loading cap voltage (Gold Star Winner) (2) Loss, and what to do with the heat (3) Cost Thanks and 73, Jim N7CXI -- Assuming adequate core/wire sizing
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00359.html (9,177 bytes)

10. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Jim W7RY <w7ry@centurytel.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:37:14 -0700
Jim... To figure the plate load impedance: RP = EP / 1.8 X IP 1.8 = K factor for class AB1 (Changes with ZSAC) RP = Plate Resistance EP = Plate Voltage IP = Plate Current 1.8 X .65 Amps = 1.17 1.17/
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00360.html (10,582 bytes)

11. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Larry Benko <xxw0qe@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:16:02 -0600
The way I see it the 200:50 ohm bifilar xfmr reduces the loading cap value but doubles the voltage requirement and eliminates the need for a choke to ground in case the plate blocking cap(s) fail. It
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00363.html (10,425 bytes)

12. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 18:39:37 -0400 (EDT)
THE COMMAND TECH HF-2500E THAT RUNS 3 3CX800 TUBES USES THIS UN-UN SYSTEM AND AT 3KW OUTPUT THERE SEEMS TO BE NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER. Seems to be a tried and true design. It's hard to argue with succes
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00364.html (10,050 bytes)

13. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Bill Turner <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:59:25 -0700
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) REPLY: Will that unit run at full legal limit with a brick on the key? The 2-holer version will not, and the weak link is the toroid. Guess how I know? Twice. :-) 7
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00365.html (9,437 bytes)

14. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Louis Parascondola <gudguyham@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:01:19 -0400 (EDT)
That I don't know, I'll try to see what the manual claims. Will that unit run at full legal limit with a brick on the key? The 2-holer version will not, and the weak link is the toroid. Guess how I k
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00366.html (9,847 bytes)

15. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:54:23 -0400
All 3 of the Command Tech amps 1/2/3 tubes used a single toroid switched for 40, 80, and 160 followed by the balun. It was the switched pi net toroid that caused problems. On the 6M amp they also use
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00368.html (11,752 bytes)

16. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Vic K2VCO <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:56:42 -0700
Don't believe the 1.8. I found that this is far from the correct value for the 4CX1000A. Maybe it's closer for triodes like 8877s, maybe not. See <http://www.granta.g4axx.com/Linear_design_notes.php3
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00369.html (10,872 bytes)

17. [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:01:24 -0700
Assuming adequate core/wire sizing and airflow, can anyone think of a solid reason *not* to design a legal-limit HF amp output tank for 200 ohms, then use a 4:1 "un-un" transformer to step it down to
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00370.html (11,809 bytes)

18. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Jim W7RY <w7ry@centurytel.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:16:41 -0700
Ummmm... He's using an 8877. 73 Jim W7RY I found that this is far from the correct value for the 4CX1000A. Maybe it's closer for triodes like 8877s, maybe not. See <http://www.granta.g4axx.com/Linear
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00371.html (11,732 bytes)

19. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: Jim W7RY <w7ry@centurytel.net>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:22:51 -0700
See below. 73 Jim W7RY Assuming adequate core/wire sizing and airflow, can anyone think of a solid reason *not* to design a legal-limit HF amp output tank for 200 ohms, then use a 4:1 "un-un" transfo
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00372.html (12,399 bytes)

20. Re: [Amps] 200-ohm tank and "un-un" in HF amp design? (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:00:34 -0400
When Palstar bought the line they went to 3 seperate toroids and kept the balun. Is Palstar still building amps? 73 Roger (K8RI) Ive worked on several of all models from both companies and havent had
/archives//html/Amps/2013-10/msg00373.html (9,514 bytes)


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