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1. [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: Peter Sils via Amps <amps@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:35:00 -0700
I recently acquired a slightly used 8410 (mfg 3/2014). I was surprised to learn it had 4CX1500B tubes rather than the 4CX1000A's. Looking at the RF Concepts website for tubes I notice the price is lo
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00232.html (7,035 bytes)

2. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: Prem <va3uma@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:32:37 -0400
The first thing that comes to my mind is, the grid dissipation is 0W (4CX1000A), and the plate dissipation is lower than a 4CX1500B. I'm not sure about the o/p being lower in the 4CX1500B; should be
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00233.html (7,805 bytes)

3. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: Pete Raymond <n4kwpete@centurylink.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:57:50 -0400
Hi Peter, I believe the drive on the 1500B is lower than the 1000A. Here is a deal for you. I have two never used 4CX1500B Eimac tubes never been in a socket for that matter. I'll sell the for $420.0
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00234.html (7,786 bytes)

4. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 09:16:11 +0200
I believe the difference between the 1w grid dissipation rating of the 1500 and the 0w of the 1000 isn't significant and may only be a matter of how the engineers decided to present it on the data sh
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00235.html (9,214 bytes)

5. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: Manfred Mornhinweg <manfred@ludens.cl>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 21:03:21 +0000
To all tube specialists out there, I wonder whether the 4CX1500B is _intrinsically_ a low distortion tube, by any special construction techniques, or if the good IMD rating comes simply from the oper
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00239.html (11,901 bytes)

6. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: KA4INM radio <ka4inm@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:57:33 -0400
This last contest weekend I was at the CE6TC contest site. It was a two station setup, one equipped with an Alpha 89, the other with a Ten Tec. Both amps worked great, but the streams of hot air blo
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00240.html (9,185 bytes)

7. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:45:29 -0400
Welcome to tetrodes Manfred. Very few are designed for very low IMD and excessive, IMO, idle current is a way to appease the masses in the ham world. The 600W dissipation Russian GU-74B was fraudulen
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00242.html (14,365 bytes)

8. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: "Peter Voelpel" <dj7ww@t-online.de>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 00:50:04 +0100
Funny, most TV transmitters in Europe with combined sound and vision amplification have been with tetrodes in their final because of their high linearity. I never saw a commercial communication HF am
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00243.html (8,124 bytes)

9. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: "Leigh Turner" <invertech@frontierisp.net.au>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:51:07 +1030
Indeed Peter. And high plate bias current and associated low efficiency is part and parcel of achieving high linearity and low intermod from AB1 tetrodes. Low plate idle current and low IMD are mutua
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00244.html (10,028 bytes)

10. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.qozzy.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 21:20:06 -0400
And in North America the emphasis has been on both types as both have their uses in broadcasting and in communications where the latter mostly use grid driven with low power driver stages and large s
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00245.html (10,181 bytes)

11. [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:07:23 -0700
Welcome to tetrodes Manfred. Very few are designed for very low IMD and excessive, IMO, idle current is a way to appease the masses in the ham world. The 600W dissipation Russian GU-74B was fraudulen
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00246.html (8,109 bytes)

12. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:15:53 +0200
If you look at the characteristic curves on the datasheet, you can see that it is a different tube. I wonder whether the 4CX1500B is _intrinsically_ a low distortion tube, by any special construction
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00247.html (8,627 bytes)

13. [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:06:38 -0700
Indeed Peter. And high plate bias current and associated low efficiency is part and parcel of achieving high linearity and low intermod from AB1 tetrodes. Low plate idle current and low IMD are mutua
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00255.html (9,353 bytes)

14. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: Paul Baldock <paul@paulbaldock.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:48:17 -0700
One nice thing about home brewing a grid driven tetrode amp with the GU74B is that you don't need a tuned input, just a 50 Ohm resistor. With 2 tubes, 50-60W drive gives you 1500W out. With suitable
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00257.html (10,767 bytes)

15. [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: John Lyles <jtml@losalamos.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 00:22:28 -0600
Don't be concerned over idling current in tetrodes. As long as you can cool the tube, let it conduct to whatever it takes for IMD. I've made amplifiers from ~3 to 200 MHz, for 30 years now, as work r
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00267.html (15,233 bytes)

16. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: "Leigh Turner" <invertech@frontierisp.net.au>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 20:14:47 +1030
Yes Jim, the maximum impact bang of course comes from PTT operation... Leigh VK5KLT Indeed Peter. And high plate bias current and associated low efficiency is part and parcel of achieving high linear
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00270.html (10,188 bytes)

17. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: donroden@hiwaay.net
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:01:14 -0500
Quoting John Lyles <jtml@losalamos.com>: Enjoy building amplifiers and don't make it a pain for yourself or your peers. 73 John K5PRO Good post John, Sounds like you had the perfect job for a ham rad
/archives//html/Amps/2014-10/msg00280.html (8,871 bytes)

18. Re: [Amps] Alpha 8410 using 4CX1500B - why? (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 00:17:00 -0400
I don't remember the tube designations any more as it's been 30 plus years since I worked on them, but we ran 200 - 250 KW as an oscillator, induction heater. They were heavy (compared to an 8877, 4C
/archives//html/Amps/2014-11/msg00000.html (8,680 bytes)


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