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1. [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Allan W Schlaugat <reflectors@n9isn.com>; Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:34:37 -0500; I am trying to get a old Kenwood TL922 Amp up and running. It did not come with a power plug (as per the manual) so I am trying to get one to work with the amp. I have a 30A 240v 3 pole 4 wire outlet; /archives//html/Amps/2009-10/msg00348.html (7,362 bytes)
2. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Robert Groh <rgroh@swbell.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:27:47 -0700 (PDT); Yes, I think you have got it right. The white wire (the neutral) is not used when you are running on 220/240 VAC. You only need the neutral if you have some 110/120 VAC loads in the device - the TL92; /archives//html/Amps/2009-10/msg00350.html (8,340 bytes)
3. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: markrob@mindspring.com; Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:23:36 -0500 (GMT-05:00); My TL-922A has been running on 220V connected to L1, L2 and gnd since I have had it. No need for a Neutral connection. In fact in my house all the Neutral wires are connected to the gnd bus bar at th; /archives//html/Amps/2009-10/msg00351.html (9,919 bytes)
4. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Doug Renwick <ve5ra@sasktel.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:03:04 -0600; Your white neutral had better be connected to the ground at the service panel ... that is the correct practice here in NA. Doug I'll run the race and I will never be the same again. In fact in my hou; /archives//html/Amps/2009-10/msg00352.html (7,697 bytes)
5. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: markrob@mindspring.com; Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:20:19 -0400 (EDT); Yes it is even the practice here in NC Mark --Original Message-- _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amp; /archives//html/Amps/2009-10/msg00353.html (8,309 bytes)
6. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:50:30 -0700; And in California. I would check that out. You may got a short (!) trip you might not want. 73, Gary...wa6fgi Yes it is even the practice here in NC Mark --Original Message-- ________________________; /archives//html/Amps/2009-10/msg00354.html (8,578 bytes)
7. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Bill <n2bc@stny.rr.com>; Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:41:48 -0400; It is part of the NATIONAL Electrical Code.... Safety Ground and Neutral must be bonded in the entrance panel - and ONLY in the entrance panel(*). There may be variants for commercial, but that's cur; /archives//html/Amps/2009-10/msg00355.html (10,050 bytes)
8. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Ian Hill - K8MM <ihk8mm@charter.net>; Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:17:21 -0400; Houses are typically feed off of a center tapped secondary. 240V measured between phase conductors and 120V between either phase conductor and the center tap. There isn't any sort of dangerous short; /archives//html/Amps/2009-10/msg00356.html (7,637 bytes)
9. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:49:45 -0800; Exactly right. One other VERY important point -- it is both ILLEGAL and UNSAFE to connect neutral to ground at any other point. The proper connection of a 240V load is to the two ends of the transfor; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00014.html (7,272 bytes)
10. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:08:01 -0500; Several commercial amps of the 60's, 70's and maybe later, including Alpha, Henry and Johnson connect the 120V devices between a 240V leg and ground. Apparently is was considered safe and legal back; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00015.html (9,430 bytes)
11. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Ian Hill - K8MM <ihk8mm@charter.net>; Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:24:23 -0500; There isn't anything ILLEGAL about connecting the neutral and ground anywhere else beside the main panel. You're violating the NEC but not committing a criminal offense. ;-) K8MM ____________________; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00016.html (8,869 bytes)
12. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: "Mark Robinson" <markrob@mindspring.com>; Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:32:57 -0600; My Neutral and Ground is connected at the main panel but also at the barn 300 feet away. I am running a 3 wire 100 amp 240v power 4 00 aluminum line to the barn from a 100 amp 240v breaker located in; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00017.html (10,276 bytes)
13. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: maflynn@att.net; Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:38:24 +0000; Not allowed by code: NFPA 70: 408.20 Grounding of Panelboards. Panelboard cabinets and panelboard frames, if of metal, shall be in physical contact with each other and shall be grounded. Where the pa; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00018.html (12,130 bytes)
14. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Ian Hill - K8MM <ihk8mm@charter.net>; Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:45:47 -0500; A lot of the residential wiring back then lacked a dedicated grounding conductor. It only had two wires, a "hot" and a neutral, unlike the wire used today which has three wires including a dedicated; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00019.html (10,669 bytes)
15. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Ian Hill - K8MM <ihk8mm@charter.net>; Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:49:26 -0500; You beat me to it....lol Ian - K8MM _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/amps; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00020.html (12,439 bytes)
16. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: "Mark Robinson" <markrob@mindspring.com>; Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:08:14 -0600; Grounding conductors shall not be connected to a terminal bar provided for grounded conductors (may be a neutral) unless the bar is identified for the purpose and is located where interconnection bet; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00021.html (15,067 bytes)
17. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:15:54 -0600; This does not tell you if it is right or wrong in this situation. Not sure how the code reads today, but a couple of years ago this type of hookup was perfectly ok. The code said that if a sub panel; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00022.html (15,312 bytes)
18. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Bob Nielsen <n7xy@clearwire.net>; Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:18:13 -0800; http://www.mikeholt.com/mojonewsarchive/GB-HTML/HTML/ NECArticle250Sections250.1-250.4~20020123.htm _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesting.com http://lists.; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00023.html (16,898 bytes)
19. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: donroden@hiwaay.net; Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:41:13 -0600; My article 250 says ground everything as many times as you can and then add three more grounds..... LOL !!! Don WA4NPL _______________________________________________ Amps mailing list Amps@contesti; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00024.html (8,342 bytes)
20. Re: [Amps] TL922 Power Plugs (score: 1): Author: Paul Decker <kg7hf@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:50:42 +0000 (UTC); Another possible and likely problem is if the neutral opens somewhere in the house it would cause the equipment to not work. For example, you plug your stereophonic in with an open neutral, it wont; /archives//html/Amps/2009-11/msg00025.html (9,082 bytes)

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