Those who favor a ban on spotting are typically (but not always) SERIOUS contesters. The problem it at least two-fold. 1. How would this be enforced by the sponsor? They cannot FORCE the clusters to
... Please define SERIOUS. Seriously, who wants to ban the 95% of potential QSOs in the contest? DXclusters provide to the fun for all the averageDXjoes. DXclusters provide to contests. Serious Old T
Jukka, Banning packet would be the same as banning crutches for lame people. I think lame people should be allowed to use crutches. 73, de Hans, K0HB -- "Just a boy and his Radio" Sea stories here -
Hans, I don't like the implication. I'm sure I'm not the only one. And you don't need to give me that hunting dog BS either. I've heard it enough. People use packet for various reasons. Some are look
The people who don't like this implication are often the ones who need the "crutch", the spotting network, to help them get higher scores in contests. It's far from BS - it's a reasonable, valid com
... Banning the internet based spotting tools would ruin many things for the normal people who do not submit logs. Read: people submitting logs are abnormal. People submitting logs with faul play sho
For me, as a low power non-assisted contester, the use of packet in a contest is not merely an argument of whether it is a crutch or not, it affects the way I contest, even though I do not use it. Pa
So...maybe this is a "good" argument for allowing self-spotting. Say, allow each contestant in the contest the option to post their call/freq. every 30min's . (no more reports of the 'most spotted ca
Author: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kenharker@kenharker.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:55:10 -0800
Really? Before spotting, nobody enjoyed contesting? When the micro-lite DXpedition guys chose to go with low power and vertical dipoles for their trips to the southern ocean islands, did that ruin th
This thing repeats itself every year, If we look at this from the reality side a solution is simple: 1. Packet is used by lots of people and many enjoy it, gives them immediate gratification zero wai
But, what if one is an S&Per and changes frequency a lot? Then an update every 30 min is not enough. If you are looking for that rare SC mult in SS and you see me spotted 28 minutes ago, the chances
Agreed - it's the self-spotting that has been criminalized :-) Not quite. There's no reason for SO to change from being a "one man and his dog" class and, at the same time, benefit from being spotted
a separate, wired, communications technology is permitted in some amateur-radio contesting categories, it's that many of us apparently think it's normal. You're apparently a strong traditionalist, P
Hi Dennis...you better 'find' me this weekend...!!! :) BUT...if you are S&P'ing then you wouldn't get 'spotted' anyway... Of course there is more to flesh out before SELF SPOTTING becomes incorporate
Being the devil's advocate, your argument of "non amateur-radio communications" is off-base. Step back in time to the early 90's. No public internet back then. Packet was in full swing, with VHF pack
It's not as simple as that. I'm prepared to bet that if N5TJ had packet available he could have made an even bigger score. It need have nothing to do with changing your operating style and following
Unless this is addressed the rest of this discussion is just blowing in the wind! I have been a very active contester as VK4VU and VK5GN getting on for many contests running flat out and in those day
I'm happy to step back as far as you want, and can do it from personal experience to the early 60s. Not only is the the use of non amateur-radio communications inappropriate in contesting, so also i
Hmmm, IMHO he knows what fits better for what. But of course YMMV. 73, Chris (should marathon-runners then not be allowed to use e-mail as long as they prefer the challenge of a "slow way" doing it