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Re: [CQ-Contest] Ban all contest spotting?

To: k1ep.list@gmail.com, Glenn Wyant <va3dx@sympatico.ca>, CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ban all contest spotting?
From: <w1md@cfl.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 9:52:42 -0500
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So...maybe this is a "good" argument for allowing self-spotting. Say, allow 
each contestant in the contest the option to post their call/freq. every 
30min's . (no more reports of the 'most spotted calls'...since everyone who is 
ON the network should have roughly the same number of spots over the 
weekend...96...no more cheerleaders or self spotters...WE'd ALL be self 
spotters)

The good:

1.  Ensures that the packet spot is correct...no busted calls
2.  GREATLY reduces network traffic (It amazes me sometimes to watch the raw 
data feeds and see the multiple simultaneous spots of a station that go 
through).
3.  Puts EVERYONE on the same playing field. 
4.  With periodic spots, the packet pileups would fade away.
5.  No more having to hit ALT-F3 or whatever your logging program requires.
6.  Have the logging software implement the periodic updates automatically and 
NOT allow any manual spots.


Seems like a 'win win'. :)

Marty
W1MD
---- Ed K1EP <k1ep.list@gmail.com> wrote: 
> At 11/2/2009 02:11 PM, Glenn Wyant wrote:
> 
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ban all contest spotting?
> >
> > >I propose that those who dont want clusters; that they dont use them.
> > >
> > > I propose that those who like using clusters ; use them.
> > >
> > > Assuming they claim the proper category , IF they submit a contest entry.
> > >
> > > I am one of those low-life ,  cripples that uses the cluster ( assisted )
> > > now and then , sorry to those who wish control my operating preferences.
> > >
> > > Glenn VA3DX
> 
> For me, as a low power non-assisted contester, the use of packet in a 
> contest is not merely an argument of whether it is a crutch or not, 
> it affects the way I contest, even though I do not use it.  Packet in 
> a contest creates "packet pileups".  Once a sought after station is 
> spotted, a tremendous, sometimes unruly, pileup ensues.  As an 
> unassisted low power contester, I seek out the DX by tuning.  When I 
> find one, I would like the opportunity to work him without hundreds 
> of packet people descending upon him.  If, on the other hand, I am 
> running and spotted incorrectly, I will all of a sudden have a flood 
> of eager contesters calling me.  Many will have already worked me and 
> be dupes.  This causes me to either QSY or work many dupes and reduce 
> my effective rate.  So, the use of packet it not an isolated event, 
> it just doesn't help or assist the operator using it, it affects all 
> the other contesters.  Whether these effects are beneficial or not 
> should be the discussion.  If packet could be used by an assisted 
> operator without affecting others, then I am all for it.  In reality, 
> that isn't the case.
> 
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