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1. [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: jpescatore@aol.com
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 05:41:34 -0500 (EST)
Skimmer accuracy had gotten much better, but it is certainly not perfect yet. The accuracy of the spots coming from the RBN are generally higher than those coming from human beings. There are techniq
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00395.html (7,549 bytes)

2. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: Barry <w2up@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:16:36 -0700
Seems like the tail wagging the dog. Barry W2UP There are techniques for maximizing the odds of getting spotted by a skimmer, and for minimizing the skimmer busting your call: Send CQ TEST and YOURCA
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00398.html (8,086 bytes)

3. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: "Bob Naumann" <W5OV@W5OV.COM>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:17:48 -0600
K3TN said: "The accuracy of the spots coming from the RBN are generally higher than those coming from human beings." I don't know if that summary is correct and my gut feel is that it's not. What's t
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00399.html (9,916 bytes)

4. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: "Martin , LU5DX" <lu5dx@lucg.com.ar>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:02:48 -0300
Yup. It is pretty easy to get rid of busted calls in the RBN. The RBN should allow for feedback from humans, so that you could send the information about a busted call, RBN would propagate it to the
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00401.html (13,281 bytes)

5. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:41:02 -0500
Oh, I disagree entirely. When either a person or the skimmer spots a busted call, it is amplified by other humans who click on it, work it, and re-spot it with the same busted call. I don't think sk
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00402.html (9,607 bytes)

6. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: "Albert Crespo" <f5vhj@orange.fr>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:54:44 +0000
What a joke contesting has become. Send your call using the exact formula below so the robot can copy your call otherwise people cannot work you. N6TJ in the last century said packet doomed real cont
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00405.html (10,200 bytes)

7. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: "Marijan Miletic, S56A" <s56a@bit.si>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:50:08 +0100
W5OV writes: During a contest, the RBN continually and repeatedly, ad infinitum, makes the same errors over and over and over which fills the bandmaps with useless stuff. I guess Bob argument is bias
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00409.html (8,805 bytes)

8. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: "Tim Duffy" <k3lr@k3lr.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:33:01 -0600
K3LR is not using full break-in on any band. There is no distortion detected on the TX RF scope pattern. Amplifier vacuum relays are pulled in before any TX RF is applied by using the Win-Test PTT op
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00410.html (9,253 bytes)

9. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 13:35:50 -0500
We'll try the extra half space option between K3LR's in November. If this works, lots of guys will be disappointed that they will miss the rare EK3 multiplier during CQWW CW 2013. 73, Tim K3LR Wonder
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00411.html (8,909 bytes)

10. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 13:49:15 -0700
Mike W0MU I guess Bob argument is biased on EK3LR events. There are less than 100 wrong spots from USA Skimmers. One would also expect similar EK9CT errors but there are only 5. No EK1ZZ or EK9NW. On
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00415.html (10,234 bytes)

11. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: w5ov@w5ov.com
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:22:08 -0600
Mario, Your analysis is not correct. It has nothing to do with EK3LR spots as I would not have seen them. Locally, this is blocked from the K3LR system and we don't see them or send them out. It is t
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00417.html (10,615 bytes)

12. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: "Marijan Miletic, S56A" <s56a@bit.si>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:02:14 +0100
HS0ZCW wrote: Just so you know, I am breaking my face with a grin at all the bad news re Skimmer... Let me combine these two comments from my 1991 ARRL CW experience with over 200 QSO worked by robot
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00419.html (11,378 bytes)

13. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: w5ov@w5ov.com
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 16:13:40 -0600
Add the 20 EK1LZ spots to all the others and it becomes a big problem. 20 bad calls each spotted 20 times is 400 bad spots. When you look at the problem collectively, it becomes more apparent as to t
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00421.html (12,574 bytes)

14. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: Barry <w2up@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:35:10 -0700
On a positive note, skimmer is NOT posting that very prolific 2x0 callsign from the Ivory Coast - TU. Probably not necessary as station TU signs that callsign almost every QSO. Once in a while, he si
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00422.html (10,876 bytes)

15. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: Michael Adams <mda@n1en.org>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 21:09:05 -0500
It's probably worth noting that in all 20 cases, the EK1LZ spots appear to have been unique, coming from only one skimmer. (Different skimmers at different times, but only one at a time.) -- *Michael
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00425.html (9,120 bytes)

16. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:32:01 -0500
Hmm. A little attention to the math. Looking at the spot counts in their analysis app, there's something in the magnitude of a million spots over the weekend. 400 errors through the process out of 1,
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00428.html (10,450 bytes)

17. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: XV4Y <xv4y@nature-mekong.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:53:56 +0700
Hi, I really start to think human beings should not be allowed to participate to contests anymore. They cheat, make errors, complain all the time about rules being unfair... We should decide the winn
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00430.html (10,123 bytes)

18. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: "Martin , LU5DX" <lu5dx@lucg.com.ar>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:28:13 -0300
I see the RBN Raw data shows 3,937,110 spots for the 2013 ARRL INT'L CW. There are 32634 unique calls. I've the list with counts. Anyone with time to do the analysis, please let me know and I'll prov
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00433.html (11,258 bytes)

19. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: "Bob Naumann" <W5OV@W5OV.COM>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:36:14 -0600
First of all, I suspect there are far more than 400 errors out of 1 million spots. The % is definitely far higher than .04%. I did my time with this error-prone RBN by clearing the bad spots from the
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00437.html (12,336 bytes)

20. Re: [CQ-Contest] Summarizing the Skimmer Accuracy Thread (score: 1)
Author: Jeffrey Embry <jeffrey.embry@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:44:08 -0500
I have to say this thread is getting old. If you don't want to use RBN...DON'T. If you do, then by all means do. Above all have fun...and if there is an error...then perhaps listening to make sure is
/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-02/msg00443.html (14,515 bytes)


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