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1. [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:19:36 -0800
I have had a couple of people contact me off-list a problem with the v. 2.x Orions regarding the ability to drive external amplifiers to normal average power levels in SSB. I have referred to this as
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00525.html (8,780 bytes)

2. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: Phil Howlett <w9xx@hughes.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:33:45 -0500
Could it be power amp overcurrent drive cutback for protection of the amp? W9XX _______________________________________________ TenTec mailing list TenTec@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/m
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00526.html (7,797 bytes)

3. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@tx.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:36:36 -0600
If yo go back and read some of Doug Smith's original writings on the Orion, it appears to be DSP-based. I don't recall this ever being an issue on the 565 v1. I suspect it's another benefit of the r
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00528.html (7,713 bytes)

4. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@storm.weather.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:06:17 -0600
Average power may NOT be talk power. The fundamental problems come from two things: 1. the PA has a peak power limit that if you try to exceed that you get splatter. ALC works to prevent that over dr
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00532.html (13,151 bytes)

5. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:18:26 -0800
First off, I would think that the TT final amp can take quite a bit more peak output and still stay within its linear range. Certainly an occasional transient peak exceeding 100 Watts by 1 dB wouldn'
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00534.html (17,065 bytes)

6. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@tx.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:05:02 -0600
See the section on Transmit Gain Control (TGC), here: http://www.doug-smith.net/digitalagc.htm. V2 or not, I suspect the general notion is still applicable and that transmit ALC is not purely an ana
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00535.html (8,734 bytes)

7. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Merle Bone" <merlebone@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:26:29 -0600
Grant (NQ5T) said: "I don't recall this ever being an issue on the 565 v1. I suspect it's another benefit of the revised DSP code in v2/II." -- I checked the "talk power issue" on V1.373b5 a few minu
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00537.html (9,089 bytes)

8. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:12:14 -0800
That is a dramatic difference between the v 1 and v 2, and the numbers you report on v 2 are in line with what I see here. I checked the O2 against the TS870 and saw average outputs on the O2 (barefo
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00541.html (11,142 bytes)

9. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@storm.weather.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:55:43 -0600
But can it do 1 dB more output without increasing intermod products by many more than 3 or 5 dB. E.g. is that 1 dB extra range (25%) still as linear as the power range up to the rated power? I suspec
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00546.html (14,072 bytes)

10. [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 05:49:48 -0800 (PST)
An average of 800-900 with a 1400 peak is heavily, heavily compressed, is going to sound heavily compressed, is distorted <look at it on a scope>, and is not doing the transceiver or amp any favors,
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00553.html (8,411 bytes)

11. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Merle Bone" <merlebone@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:38:27 -0600
Dennis (K8DO) said: "An average of 800-900 with a 1400 peak is heavily, heavily compressed, is going to sound heavily compressed, is distorted <look at it on a scope>, and is not doing the transceive
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00554.html (11,418 bytes)

12. [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:31:38 -0800 (PST)
Well, if you are happy, I am happy... And what I am going to say is not rebuttal to you, etc., but simply how I see the issue... Other than maybe the "drive it till it howls to work dx" issue, I simp
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00556.html (8,640 bytes)

13. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@arrl.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:19:33 -0500
In a DX pileup, the strong gravelly sound of heavy speech processing is essential to break a pileup. Rag chewing vs DX'ing pileups for rare stations require very different audio setups. Carl Moreschi
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00560.html (10,065 bytes)

14. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t@tx.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:39:25 -0600
A pair of 4cx15000a's running at about 10Kv and 4.5A per tube will do a pretty good job, too :-) Grant/NQ5T _______________________________________________ TenTec mailing list TenTec@contesting.com
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00562.html (7,854 bytes)

15. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:59:00 -0800
Different sounds for different purposes. I have found that even subtle changes in a pile-up can make you stand out enough to be heard. One more click on the SP, a little better shape on the EQ, point
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00568.html (11,006 bytes)

16. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: Martin AA6E <aa6e@ewing.homedns.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:36:09 -0500
Right. I was once trying to raise a DX op, when he said something like - "negative copy OM, your audio has too much bass". I adjusted to ~260 Hz Tx rolloff and ~2400 Hz bandpass, and raised him with
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00574.html (9,307 bytes)

17. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: John Buck <kh7t@arrl.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:46:25 -1000
It is my opinion that Carl gives this group extremely well thought out advice. But I think his comment quoted below needs some clarification. As a KH7 prefix call I sometimes end up on the receiving
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00583.html (9,649 bytes)

18. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:25:23 -0800
That may be true, but creating the QRM needed to get out in front is fair play, even though on the surface, it may not sound that way. Just like in sailboat racing, it's a fair tactic to pass upwind
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00588.html (10,264 bytes)

19. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Barry Gross" <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 00:53:28 +0000
How does "creating QRM" help one "get out in front"? (seriously, I don't get this and I've played in my share of pileups) 73 & Happy Holidays, Barry N1EU _____________________________________________
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00591.html (8,921 bytes)

20. Re: [TenTec] Orion 1 & 2 "Talk Power" problem (score: 1)
Author: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:02:55 -0800
Simple...in keeps weaker stations from being heard under you. I learned that long ago when I operated KA2KS, an American Military Forces station in Japan. If you listen carefully to pile-up today, th
/archives//html/TenTec/2006-12/msg00594.html (10,314 bytes)


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