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1. [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: K4IA@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:42:10 EDT
I am confused by the scheme used to automatically cut in the Orion roofing filters. Why does the filter not cut in until the DSP bandwidth is substantially less than the filter? For example, the 2.4
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00215.html (7,246 bytes)

2. [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 10:10:21 -0400
K4IA: filters. I believe Ten-Tec uses an algorithm to switch their roofing filters at ~75% of nominal bandwidth. Remember that the purpose of the roofing filter is to block unwanted products at the f
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00216.html (8,372 bytes)

3. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: K4IA@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:34:24 EDT
Manual is way to cumbersome. It would be easier if there was one button you could push to cycle through customized filter settings (like the AGC) but alas, no such button exists on the Orion. MENU =>
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00219.html (8,540 bytes)

4. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 15:15:42 -0000
Well I'm really no expert and I think Ten Tec's basis for the decision to deploy roofing filters when DSP b/w is at 75% of roofing b/w would be better explained by them. Having said that, I offer the
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00224.html (10,379 bytes)

5. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 16:53:02 -0500
I noticed the same thing as I started getting to know my new Orion. I think that part of the confusion is that the roofing filters are not the signal bandwidth filters that we are used to seeing adve
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00240.html (11,835 bytes)

6. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq@iglou.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 19:32:30 -0400
I disagree. Roofing filers serve the same purpose, are located in the same place and are even the same physical part they have been for the past 30 years. Roofing is simply a new term invented to des
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00243.html (15,769 bytes)

7. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:05:38 -0500
Steve: All I can say is that you are wrong. Please review the Orion diagrams and schematics. They not the same as what we were used to 30 years ago. Period! 73, Bernard, WA4OEJ to has both audio I th
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00245.html (18,298 bytes)

8. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq@iglou.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 21:15:28 -0400
Bernard: I am refering to the basic block diagram of the receiver section. Yes, the Orion does have DSP as I mentioned however, the RF chain ahead of the DSP unit is the same basic superhetrodyne rec
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00246.html (20,556 bytes)

9. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 20:41:01 -0500
Steve: I was just looking at the schematic diagram of my FT-1000 to see if I could determine the filter bandwidth going into the receiver front end. I didn't see it called out on the set of diagrams
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00249.html (23,710 bytes)

10. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Steve N4LQ" <n4lq@iglou.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 22:14:13 -0400
Please believe me. The roofing filter is not in the front end. The front end is as broad as an entire ham band! The roofing filter is in the IF stage where it has always been. I can take the 9mhz fil
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00251.html (27,100 bytes)

11. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 02:30:45 -0000
I think Bernard's comments about the point the roofing filters are kicked in is a very good one. I was just doing some listening on SSB with the 2400 hertz DSP filter and switching back and forth wit
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00254.html (27,662 bytes)

12. [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:39:41 -0400
Bernard, at your invitation I quickly looked over your discussion and have to agree with Steve that Orion's design is not new. However I disagree with Steve in that the term "roofing filter" is also
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00255.html (11,769 bytes)

13. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Rick Williams" <rick.williams@telus.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 19:59:44 -0700
So Steve what would should we call the 12 kHz wide 2-pole filter on the 9 MHz board of my Omni V?? I believe your Omni VI has a similar filter. Do you think "roofing filter" would cover it? 73, Rick
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00256.html (9,393 bytes)

14. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 03:00:55 -0000
All the Omni series receivers had a 9 mhz first IF just like the Orion. That's why you can use the Omni filters as roofing filters in the Orion. The difference is the Only filtering is still very sha
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00257.html (13,240 bytes)

15. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 07:35:29 -0000
Well...........the one thing that everyone appears to be overlooking here is PBT. If the 2400 Hz roofing filter were to switch in at 2400 Hz DSP then the PBT control would not function. Instead of ad
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00260.html (31,818 bytes)

16. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 07:44:10 -0000
Bill I think this is the first time I have seen something you have written that I disagree with! Single coversion superhets are inompatible with the roofing filter concept. The filters in the K2 are
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00261.html (9,192 bytes)

17. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: Sinisa Hristov <shristov@ptt.yu>
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 03:53:02 -0400
Not true. It is easy to verify that PBT functions correctly with both filters at 2400 Hz, or any other value. No, Orion normally uses only the central part of roofing filter's BW in order to prevent
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00262.html (9,874 bytes)

18. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:32:37 -0000
Sinisa You are correct, I am mistaken. Which, I guess, brings us back to the original question about whether switching roofing filters at DSP b/w = 75% roofing b/w is optimum or unecessarily conserva
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00264.html (11,494 bytes)

19. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: Sinisa Hristov <shristov@ptt.yu>
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 04:55:46 -0400
I'd say it is quite good. Only the flat [central] part of roofing filter's passband passes through the DSP filter and DSP filter's passband flatness is mostly preserved. Also, group delay variation o
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00266.html (9,876 bytes)

20. Re: [TenTec] Orion Roofing Filter Cut In (score: 1)
Author: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 09:19:31 -0000
Thanks for the explanation. That seems to pretty much answer everyone's questions concerning roofing filter cut in. Bob, 5B4AGN 75% _______________________________________________ TenTec mailing list
/archives//html/TenTec/2004-08/msg00269.html (11,142 bytes)


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