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1. [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: N3AE <n3ae@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:26:11 +0000 (UTC)
I'd like to get the group's opinion on lightning protection for my new tower project. My property layout may be a bit different than most situations. I'll try to paint a picture. The tower base is 10
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00112.html (10,114 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Matthew King - KK4CPS <KK4CPS@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:30:08 -0400
Upon a cursory read, it sounds like you're doing it right - bonding all the different grounding points together with your ground ring around the tower. Let the Motorola R56 standard guide you. It's t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00113.html (11,353 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:19:25 -0700
-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --(may be snipped) REPLY: Why would you want to do that? Do you want a portion of the lightning strike to reach your house ground and be coupled throughout your house? Lightning d
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00114.html (8,542 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:24:35 -0700
On Fri,9/12/2014 2:26 PM, N3AE wrote: My main concern is that electric feeder to the garage. The feeder enters the house basement on the "north" side and runs to the main service panel along the unfi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00115.html (11,512 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Matthew King - KK4CPS <KK4CPS@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:24:37 -0400
Bill, if you don't bond the ground systems together to bring them all to the same potential, the lightning already has a path to the house - the feedline! Then it gets to go through the radio and to
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00116.html (9,799 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:34:15 -0700
I agree, but there's a better way of looking at this. Lighting is an RF event, not a DC event. Most of the energy in lightning is between 100 kHz and 10 MHz, so the shield of the coax running between
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00117.html (9,183 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: N3AE <n3ae@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:45:07 +0000 (UTC)
Bill, Everything I've read says you need to bond all grounding electrodes together. I think the electrical code requires this as well. If the tower took a direct strike, all the "earth" near the towe
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00118.html (9,717 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:22:57 -0700
-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --(may be snipped) REPLY: When lightning is around, I disconnect all coax and rotator cables and I disconnect them at the base of the tower. I have connectors installed there just
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00120.html (9,619 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:31:00 -0700
-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --(may be snipped) REPLY: In my case, I have connectors installed in all coax and rotator cables at the base of the tower and I disconnect them when lightning is around. There is
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00121.html (10,074 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:33:20 -0700
-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --(may be snipped) REPLY: I disagree with all of that. See my other posts for an explanation. 73, Bill W6WRT _______________________________________________ ______________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00122.html (9,791 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:39:50 -0700
-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --(may be snipped) REPLY: I'm not an electrician but I'm pretty sure that is not according to code. You should have four wires, not three, going from the house to the shack: Two h
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00123.html (9,221 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:06:46 -0700
On Fri,9/12/2014 4:39 PM, Bill Turner wrote: I'm not an electrician but I'm pretty sure that is not according to code. You should have four wires, not three, going from the house to the shack: Two ho
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00124.html (10,734 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@largeriver.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:27:31 -0500
Jim, You only think that there is no ground between your house and shack/garage. That neutral wire is serving both as ground and neutral between the two buildings. What you are doing is no longer per
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00125.html (15,529 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: N3AE <n3ae@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 00:37:36 +0000 (UTC)
Jim, Thanks for the feedback. Really appreciated. See my comments below. <There's a point of clarification needed here. Do you have one service, or two? That is, does the from the power company go fi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00126.html (12,849 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@largeriver.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:42:42 -0500
The whole purpose of the 4 wire system is to keep neutral current off of the ground wire. With a 3 wire system, if the neutral/ground should open there could be 120 volts on cabinets that are connec
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00127.html (11,260 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:46:23 -0700
I disagree with your analysis, and as I noted, the system I described is specifically listed as acceptable in the last code I bought, about 2003. Neutral and ground are two separate conductors. You a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00128.html (9,559 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Bill Turner <dezrat@outlook.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:00:19 -0700
-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --(may be snipped) REPLY: Here's the "magic". If someone uses the neutral for ground and the neutral develops an open somewhere down the line, all of a sudden whatever was "ground
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00129.html (11,799 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:14:53 -0700
Right. With a 3 wire system, if the neutral/ground should open there could be 120 volts on cabinets that are connected to the green wire ground. Neutral and ground are separate conductors. They are b
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00130.html (12,503 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:21:39 -0700
On Fri,9/12/2014 5:37 PM, N3AE wrote: Ditto here. When I moved in, the service panel was just bonded to the inside cold water copper water pipe. But I'm on a well. The water line going outside is PVC
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00131.html (9,942 bytes)

20. Re: [TowerTalk] Challenging Grounding/Bonding Situation ? (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@largeriver.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:22:58 -0500
Maybe where you live the local board had not yet adopted the newer NEC code? Current NEC code does not allow for only 3 wire feeds from one building to another. They require 4 wires. Neutral and gro
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-09/msg00133.html (11,310 bytes)


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