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1. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: clewis@knology.net (Chuck Lewis)
Date: Wed Apr 16 19:52:46 2003
Jerry, Self-supporting towers are designed to withstand bending loads (from wind), but their capacity to withstand vertical loads is based on just the weight of the tower itself and the antennas it s
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00273.html (9,691 bytes)

2. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com)
Date: Wed Apr 16 20:47:05 2003
strength for That is nonsense! If the guy wires can hold the load, the tower will be stressed less than if self-supporting. When you have self supporting tower, one side gets stressed on "pull" while
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00276.html (9,734 bytes)

3. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: k3bz@arrl.net (Jerry K3BZ)
Date: Wed Apr 16 21:38:59 2003
Well, I asked! Seriously, I see now what you mean. I never thought of guys as adding to the vertical load, but of course they must if they're anything less than 90 degrees to the tower. Thanks. Jerry
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00278.html (11,071 bytes)

4. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Wed Apr 16 22:10:28 2003
Yuri, this is simply wrong. simple vector analysis will show you the vertical load guy wires apply to the tower as the lateral force increases. whether the tower can take it is a design decision made
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00281.html (8,974 bytes)

5. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Wed Apr 16 23:13:35 2003
That makes sense to me - I've often wondered about claims that guy wires will over stress a self supporter, especially without even mentioning guy angles. In order for a self supporter to be a self s
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00285.html (10,473 bytes)

6. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: hankarn@pacbell.net (Dan Arney)
Date: Wed Apr 16 23:28:16 2003
I find it amazing of the abundance of re-design ENG-A-NEERS that are so much smarter than the engineered that make their living designing towers. I understand a standalone tower does not need to be g
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00289.html (8,725 bytes)

7. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com)
Date: Wed Apr 16 23:48:10 2003
So you are saying that self supporting towers have "weaker legs" than guyed towers? Look around! Again, with guys, legs in the self supporting tower share the vertical load. Yes there is some additio
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00291.html (9,513 bytes)

8. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com)
Date: Wed Apr 16 23:57:22 2003
I find it amazing that someone would call engineer ENG-A-NEER without knowing his background. It is called self-supporting tower, it does not need to be guyed if it is loaded with design load and und
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00292.html (9,069 bytes)

9. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 17 00:00:38 2003
Nice thing about using self-supporting guyed tower is that you can have one set of guy wires about 2/3 or 3/4 height up, you can drop them down when calm wx or working on the antennas (no interferenc
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00293.html (8,992 bytes)

10. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: aa4lr@arrl.net (Bill Coleman)
Date: Thu Apr 17 08:04:06 2003
I don't think this is generally true. It all depends on what the limiting structural element of the tower is. Only the Engineer knows that for sure. And those "slack" guys aren't just infintesimally
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00298.html (9,278 bytes)

11. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Thu Apr 17 10:12:47 2003
I don't think it's possible to make such a blanket statement. The only right answer would be "it depends." The only thing you know for sure is that guying a self-supporting tower is putting forces on
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00299.html (9,372 bytes)

12. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: steve@oakcom.com (Steve Maki)
Date: Thu Apr 17 11:59:33 2003
In my very simplified mental model, I'm picturing a 45? upwind guy attached at the top of the tower, a perfectly rigid 100' tower with a 10' face width base, and 1000 lbs of wind force all concentrat
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00301.html (10,216 bytes)

13. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 17 12:43:51 2003
Yuri -- I must've forgot. What kind of engineering degree do you have again? Cheers, Steve K7LXC
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00302.html (8,616 bytes)

14. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: EvanB@Valmont.com (Burroughs, Evan)
Date: Thu Apr 17 14:35:15 2003
Hello Gentlemen, Being in the tower industry I fairly often have to field this question of reinforcing a self supporting tower with guy wires. As the engineers explain it me the fundamental issue is
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00303.html (10,440 bytes)

15. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: on4kj@skynet.be (on4kj)
Date: Thu Apr 17 15:52:40 2003
Hello all, No need for a CANAM of F1 to drive on a high way, you know the speed will be 4 times max speed limit. So why guying a " well designed " self supporting tower ? Waisted money.... years ), w
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00304.html (12,902 bytes)

16. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 17 18:11:29 2003
Steve, you are "going right" Yuri
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00305.html (8,742 bytes)

17. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 17 18:20:15 2003
Master's degree in mechanical engineering. Designed few bridge, crane and tower structures plus Razor antennas that stayed up in Canadian winters. Would that deflect some mud thrown by those unenligh
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00308.html (9,179 bytes)

18. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 17 18:27:06 2003
guyed load. That is the example of wrong blanket statement. Force induced by guy wires is fractional from the forces that self-supporting tower is experiencing when alone. Again there is no need to t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00309.html (9,464 bytes)

19. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 17 21:37:23 2003
Well, actually citing properties and data is helpful. Any mud you attract yourself. Three cheers for what, exactly? The purpose of this reflector is for thoughtful questions and answers to tower and
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00315.html (9,415 bytes)

20. [TowerTalk] Guyed self-supporters (was "Concrete suggestions") (score: 1)
Author: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com)
Date: Thu Apr 17 21:38:46 2003
Huh? The TIA-222 Tower Standard obviously thinks differently. That's two. Three strikes and you're out. Cheers, Steve K7LXC TT ADMIN
/archives//html/Towertalk/2003-04/msg00316.html (8,439 bytes)


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