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1. [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:31:46 -0800
I'm building stubs for a DXpedition, and also for my own shack. I always study the wisdom of others before undertaking a project, and came across this gem on K1TTT's website. He's quoting W8JI. The q
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00025.html (10,804 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Tim Duffy K3LR" <k3lr@k3lr.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:49:36 -0600
Hi Jim: I always wanted to test the 1/4 wave "insertion" theory, but never got around to it. I would love to hear what the difference is - if you can experiment. 73, Tim K3LR I'm building stubs for a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00027.html (11,252 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Rick Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:04:26 -0800
What Tom says is right on the mark, as long as the last component in your amplifier is a capacitor to ground, which is probably the case 90+% of the time. In Jim's case, the last component is a serie
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00028.html (10,192 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:05:48 -0500
Hi Jim, Tom has it exactly right. Think of it this way: Let's say that your quarter wave stub provides a 10 ohm impedance at the harmonic frequency. It the impedance of the amp is say 25 ohms at the
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00029.html (14,849 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Gene Fuller" <w2lu@rochester.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:23:45 -0500
I think this may be why I designed my amp with a Pi L output circuit, although I'm not a big contest station and have never really measured the harmonic output. Gene ./ W2LU _________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00030.html (11,438 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:29:30 -0800
Yes, as always, Tom's logic make perfect sense to me as well, for exactly the reasons you noted. I did the math mentally, you put it in an email. :) BUT -- at Rick correctly notes, the last component
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00031.html (8,560 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:39:46 -0800
Hi Tim, OK. As noted, my Titan 425s (original) are not a good output stage to test this, but I've got a Hercules II that does use a traditional pisection (C-L-C) as the output filter. When I have tim
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00032.html (9,161 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:55:10 -0500
Jim, You should be able to get an idea of the output impedance of the amp at the second harmonic frequency by checking with an impedance meter at the output, like with an MFJ. You may need to place a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00033.html (10,509 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:53:34 -0800
Yes, I thought about doing that, but didn't get as far as simulating the tube. You can't just shut down the amp though -- you've got to leave it up with the antenna relay pulled in. All in all, a lot
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00034.html (9,003 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 17:10:16 -0500
You don't want to have the amp on when you connect a measuring instrument to the output. Just the static conduction (noise) developed in the tubes will probably zap the front end of your meter. Use
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00035.html (10,620 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:32:40 EST
1/4 wavelength at the second harmonic is only 1/8 wavelength at the operating frequency. If you make the connection 1/4 wavelength away at the operating frequency, the described transformation does n
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00037.html (15,511 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:48:44 -0500
Which is why W2VJN's stub cookbook shows some interesting behavior with 1/8 wave connecting lines <G>. Without getting the book off the shelf, I believe he was using 1/8 wave between the amplifier a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00040.html (19,141 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:23:31 -0500
Using TLW a while back, I was modeling a 1/8-wave line and it looks like no matter what the termination Z at the end of 1/8-wave line, the Z seen at the transmitter is always the line Zo. Depending
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00041.html (9,428 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:26:29 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
--Original Message-- I'll go for the lumped design (certainly easier and more predictable), and the recommendation for Elliptic/Cauer (especially if you need some notches, and don't care about ultima
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00043.html (11,561 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:33:14 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
--Original Message-- Which is why a computer to model it is nice<grin>... Or a set of decent design equations. I'll bet there's a nomogram or set of templates for a Smith Chart that does this kind of
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00044.html (11,016 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:25:58 -0800
A rule of thumb is that an inductive stub has the Q of a coil of the same diameter. Thus RG-8 coax is not even as good as a coil on a 1/2 inch diameter form. The Q of capacitors made from coax is not
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00046.html (10,813 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:17:13 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Interestingly, there's an IEEE paper on designing filters using transmission line segments and stubs (and coupled lines, too). I can look for the reference. But, in general, yes, you want to put the
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00049.html (12,077 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:04:27 -0800
Tim, I haven't done any measurements, but I did do a literature search of QST product reviews to learn what output circuitry is used by power amps that you and I are likely to be using. What I learne
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00055.html (11,167 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Rex Lint" <rex@lint.mv.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:32:34 -0500
Jim, SB-220 is similar to Kenwood 922 - both use pi network. -Rex Rex Lint, Consultant 26 Brek Drive Merrimack, NH 03054      PH: 603-860-7651     Tim, I haven't done any measurements, but I did do a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00056.html (12,176 bytes)

20. Re: [TowerTalk] Using Stubs to Reject Harmonics (score: 1)
Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:04:21 -0800
Thanks 73, Jim _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/list
/archives//html/Towertalk/2010-02/msg00058.html (9,900 bytes)


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