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1. Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Ron Feutz <feutz@wctc.net>; Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:08:45 -0600; Topbanders, Now that the river is frozen, I want to put out one or two Beverages on the ice. I haven't been able to find reference material on this. I will probably put down ~1000' to start. Any advi; /archives//html/Topband/2003-12/msg00175.html (7,101 bytes)
2. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Herb Schoenbohm <herbs@vitelcom.net>; Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:50:44 -0400; Ron, You are describing a classic military Beverage used in the Arctic during the DEW line installations or Antarctica perhaps today. Sure run it out on the ice an snow and add a 1/4 wave piece of wi; /archives//html/Topband/2003-12/msg00187.html (8,233 bytes)
3. Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Ron Feutz <feutz@wctc.net>; Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:13:42 -0600; Topbanders, Finally got the right conditions to try something I've wanted to do since I moved to this QTH. The Wisconsin River is out my front door, and this year it froze hard enough before the snow; /archives//html/Topband/2005-12/msg00211.html (8,204 bytes)
4. Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Dennis OConnor <ad4hk2004@yahoo.com>; Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:13:53 -0800 (PST); My initial thought is that the "B"everage (OK Tree) is too high above actual earth and lacks adequate earth reference to stabilize the impedence and properly tip the incoming wave front...... Remembe; /archives//html/Topband/2005-12/msg00213.html (8,408 bytes)
5. Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Roger Parsons via Topband <topband@contesting.com>; Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 21:51:24 +0000 (UTC); I know that Beverages on Ground have been discussed on a number of occasions, but: I live on the shores of a reasonably large lake, and at this time of year it will be frozen to at least 2' and possi; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00087.html (7,448 bytes)
6. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Eddy Swynar <deswynar@xplornet.ca>; Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 17:10:51 -0500; Hi Roger, So very sorry to learn of your mobility issues there with that broken leg...! Personal mobility--or, rather, the LACK thereof!--is something that I have come to know only all too well here,; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00088.html (8,564 bytes)
7. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>; Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:13:11 -0800; 73 Roger VE3ZI Beverages on the Antarctic ice shelf (2 miles thick) have been used successfully, so it might be worth a try. You'll have to come up with a counterpoise at each end. Rick N6RK _______; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00089.html (7,670 bytes)
8. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 19:38:24 -0500; I think I would take insulated Flexweave to make an "Ice-BOG". I would use one of these Lithium-Ion hand held circular saws, with the depth of the saw set to a quarter inch, or whatever depth you thi; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00090.html (10,730 bytes)
9. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>; Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:44:51 -0500; Actually with freshwater below and ice at the top, they would not be like a BOG. They would not be like a suspended antenna either, but somewhere between and probably much closer to a Beverage in air; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00091.html (12,397 bytes)
10. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>; Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:58:49 -0500; Using FlexWeave and insulation is a take-off on the kind of wire that they put down in the slices in pavement for sensor loops. The insulation also serves as mechanical protection, and the flexible c; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00092.html (8,335 bytes)
11. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: "Ron Feutz" <feutz@wctc.net>; Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 12:52:44 -0600; I did this about 10 years ago. I live on the Wisconsin River and it's about a half-mile wide in front of the house. I laid out 1000' of #14 stranded, insulated wire. I terminated it with a 200 ohm re; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00094.html (9,897 bytes)
12. Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Roger Parsons via Topband <topband@contesting.com>; Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:02:49 +0000 (UTC); Many thanks for the comments received on this reflector and privately. A few points: I don't think that the proposed antenna is just another BOG - there is a large non-conductive layer of ice before; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00100.html (7,309 bytes)
13. Re: Topband: beverage on ice (score: 1): Author: Pete Millis <pete.millis@gmail.com>; Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 17:34:50 +0000; about nearly transformer at it ice the days but 0cirFGvx65b8keS5KCpA@mail.gmail.com> worse good worse good KHz about 10 days now. It does a very good job on both close-in and long-distance signals ac; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00101.html (26,798 bytes)
14. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>; Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 14:57:25 -0500; I laid out 1000' of #14 stranded, insulated wire. I terminated it with a 200 ohm resistor to a 1/4 wave wire and several short radials running nearly parallel to the antenna/grounding wires. At the f; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00103.html (9,636 bytes)
15. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>; Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 16:27:18 -0500; The 1000 feet of wire trenched in ice was doomed from the start. 160m BOG's longer than 220 feet start to not model well, and start to not perform well. One can easily model a BOG that has a pattern; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00104.html (12,621 bytes)
16. Re: Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>; Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 16:36:58 -0600; IIRC, the dielectric constant of pure ice is over 80. :-) While looking it up, I found that it varies with frequency, temperature, and any dissolved content. http://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/64D; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00105.html (8,545 bytes)
17. Topband: Beverage on Ice (score: 1): Author: Roger Parsons via Topband <topband@contesting.com>; Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 23:58:35 +0000 (UTC); I think I give up on this project. Firstly, I can think of no way to reliably retrieve the wire in the spring, no matter what gauge it is and as has been pointed out that could be hazardous to wildli; /archives//html/Topband/2015-01/msg00106.html (6,963 bytes)

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