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[AMPS] ALC from SB-200 reduces FT-900 power on CW

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Subject: [AMPS] ALC from SB-200 reduces FT-900 power on CW
From: johnf@futurenet.co.za (John Fielding)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:53:30 +0200
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I was under the impression that a sort of standard existed for ALC control
voltages.  Usually a negative going output form the linear is used to
reduce the drive from the exciter.  I seem to remember that most rigs need
about -6V to -9V to fully back off the drive.  Or have things changed ?

John    ZS5JF

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> From: km1h@juno.com
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [AMPS] ALC from SB-200 reduces FT-900 power on CW
To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 24, 1998 12:58 AM
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:32:06 -0700 (PDT) david wintheiser
> <w0opw@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >I cranked up my old SB-200 with the Yaesu FT-900 driver 
> >and discovered that the FT-900 power was reduced to 50 watts.  This
> >was on CW !!.  Removing the ALC line brought the drive power back up
> >to 100 watts.
> 
> And leave it off. That ALC circuit was designed for tube exciters and is
> not compatible with the SS gear.  Anyway your 990 has a real good
> internal ALC and it should keep the SB-200 from overdrive problems. 
> Just be sure to load the 200 up to full output with 100W (700-800W with
> good tubes) and then use the ALC control on the 990 to keep the 200 voice
> peaks to about 60% of key down.
> 
> 
> > Does anyone have experience with this anomoly on SB-200's ??
> > Rich,  if your monitoring this, I bought 2 of your kits for 572b's
> >this spring but can't remember what you 
> >recommend for Cathode swamp resitors instead of ALC.
> 
> 
> Dont bother;  you wasted a few bucks......a 990 can not hurt a SB200. The
> only "if" I am aware of is with some Svetlana tubes which tend to be
> rather squirrely in any amp......particularly a FL-2100.
> 
> 73   Carl  KM1H
> Amplifier Repair and 6M Conversions Our Speciality ( SB200 and 220 series
> in particular). Ask for a free flyer.
> 
> >
> >
> >
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<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><p><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">I was under the impression that a sort =
of standard existed for ALC control voltages. &nbsp;Usually a negative =
going output form the linear is used to reduce the drive from the =
exciter. &nbsp;I seem to remember that most rigs need about -6V to -9V =
to fully back off the drive. &nbsp;Or have things changed =
?<br><br>John&#009;ZS5JF<br><br>----------<br>&gt; From: <font =
color=3D"#0000FF"><u>km1h@juno.com</u><font color=3D"#000000"><br>&gt; =
To: <font color=3D"#0000FF"><u>amps@contesting.com</u><font =
color=3D"#000000"><br>&gt; Subject: Re: [AMPS] ALC from SB-200 reduces =
To: <amps@contesting.com>
FT-900 power on CW<br>&gt; Date: Thursday, September 24, 1998 12:58 =
AM<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:32:06 -0700 =
(PDT) david wintheiser<br>&gt; &lt;<font =
color=3D"#0000FF"><u>w0opw@yahoo.com</u><font color=3D"#000000">&gt; =
writes:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;I cranked up my old SB-200 with the =
Yaesu FT-900 driver <br>&gt; &gt;and discovered that the FT-900 power =
was reduced to 50 watts. &nbsp;This<br>&gt; &gt;was on CW !!. =
&nbsp;Removing the ALC line brought the drive power back up<br>&gt; =
&gt;to 100 watts.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; And leave it off. That ALC circuit =
was designed for tube exciters and is<br>&gt; not compatible with the SS =
gear. &nbsp;Anyway your 990 has a real good<br>&gt; internal ALC and it =
should keep the SB-200 from overdrive problems. <br>&gt; Just be sure to =
load the 200 up to full output with 100W (700-800W with<br>&gt; good =
tubes) and then use the ALC control on the 990 to keep the 200 =
voice<br>&gt; peaks to about 60% of key down.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
&gt; Does anyone have experience with this anomoly on SB-200's =
??<br>&gt; &gt; Rich, &nbsp;if your monitoring this, I bought 2 of your =
kits for 572b's<br>&gt; &gt;this spring but can't remember what you =
<br>&gt; &gt;recommend for Cathode swamp resitors instead of =
ALC.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Dont bother; &nbsp;you wasted a few =
bucks......a 990 can not hurt a SB200. The<br>&gt; only &quot;if&quot; I =
am aware of is with some Svetlana tubes which tend to be<br>&gt; rather =
squirrely in any amp......particularly a FL-2100.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 73 =
&nbsp;&nbsp;Carl &nbsp;KM1H<br>&gt; Amplifier Repair and 6M Conversions =
Our Speciality ( SB200 and 220 series<br>&gt; in particular). Ask for a =
free flyer.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; =
&gt;<br>&gt; =
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