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Subject: [Amps] Current Limiting Filaments
From: RFlabnotes at aol.com (RFlabnotes@aol.com)
Date: Fri Mar 21 19:49:21 2003
This is an epilog to the recent discussion of filament inrush current 
reduction by means of controlled flux leakage in the filament transformer. I 
attempted to show in my comments that this was a viable concept 
theoretically, and some simple circuit analysis verified that. I also 
expressed some doubt about the practical possibility of accomplishing this 
without going to a different (and more expensive) transformer design. In 
order to fully resolve it in my own mind, I have done some additional 
research on the subject, consisting mainly of speaking with several 
well-qualified transformer designers. They all concurred with my opinion that 
the desired result is NOT possible with a conventional transformer. In 
particular, the primary and secondary have to be physically separated by a 
certain space to achive the controlled leakage. None had ever seen a 
successful design based upon a single, overlapped bobbin.

One of my 'experts' has considerable experience with the SB200/SB220 amps and 
he confirmed my judgement that it has a conventional filament/bias 
transformer. The only current limiting will be that normally due to circuit 
resistance, including the fuse and AC linecord!

As far as using the filament choke for this purpose; I don't think the crux 
of that issue was properly revealed, so here it is. Obviously, the choke 
isn't going to work (for this purpose) without at least some modification. 
Technically, it would be possible to simpy rewind the choke to produce the 
necessary amount of L(common mode) at RF, and a much greater amount of 
L(differential) at 60Hz. That would involve adding a winding with several 
hundred times the number of turns it starts out with (the required inductance 
is about 10(+4) times the RF inductance required for cathode drive 
decoupling.) If somehow all of these physical stretches of the imagination 
could be realized, the thing would still fail before getting 10% of the way 
into the first cycle of the AC line because:.............The core of the 
typical filament choke would never handle the flux produced by this large 
inductance. It is way too small and would saturate almost instantly. 
becomming about as ferromagnetic as a piece of wood.. In fact, I could prove 
to you with some additional numbers that you couldn't even build the required 
choke out of this type of ferrite no matter how big a piece you used- mu is 
way too low.

In retrospect, I think this was a good case where a well-intended but 
incorrect conjecture led to a good electronics lesson for us all.

73
Eric von Valtier

P.s. You may have heard of one of my sources on commercial transformer design 
and mfg - his name is Peter Dahl.




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