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Re: [Amps] Fingerprints on 3Z500 tubes

To: Geert Jan de Groot <pe1hzg@xs4all.nl>, amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Fingerprints on 3Z500 tubes
From: Bill Fuqua <wlfuqu00@uky.edu>
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:09:07 -0500
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        To answer your question. NO, DON'T Worry about it. This myth really 
got rolling with the introduction of high pressure Quartz Halogen lamps. 
These lamps have very very hot filaments with high pressure inside (which 
increases with temperature) and the hot gas is in contact with the 
envelope.  They are delicate and if certain contaminates get on the surface 
the surface of the quartz envelope can be damaged either  by etching 
(quartz is very difficult to etch) or by causing a hot spot.  Another 
source of the myth could have been the photography enthusiasts. They always 
cautioned people about finger prints on lens because they may etch into the 
optical glass. However, it is likely that the coatings would be damaged 
first before even the oils even got to the glass.  Go to the kitchen and 
look at all the glasses that you have put away months or years ago that you 
have not moved. They should have finger prints on them. Are they etched 
into the glass? Do they come off in  the dish washer?  If they did etch 
into the glass you would see all sorts of product advertisements stating 
that their dishwasher liquid or what ever prevents the problem.
      Also, if glass were so easy to etch then it would not be used for 
chemistry test tubes. Etching would contaminate the contents of the the 
test tube.

     Saying that, I will say that it is good to keep the envelopes of the 
tubes clean , but perfection is not necessary, white silk gloves are not 
necessary. Finger prints will not kill your tubes. Relax.

       A 3-500Z or even bigger tubes anodes get red hot at times but much 
lower temperature than the Quartz Halogen lamps filaments. Also, the only 
thing heating the envelop radiant heat, most of which passes straight thru.

      I have yet to see a power tube envelop burst due to some contaminate 
on the surface of the envelope. I guess if someone really worked at it they 
could damage do it. But the anode would have to get quite a bit hotter than 
the melting point of glass to damage the glass by radiated heat. The seals 
would probably go first. They are the weak parts of the envelope. Heat is 
conducted by the metal to the seals where there may be  a very slight 
difference expansion rate due to temperature. This can put stress in the 
areas where glass meets metal and create a crack. This then allows air to 
enter the tube.  That is why it is important to cool the base (pin seals) 
and plate caps (anode seals) of the tubes.

73
Bill wa4lav


At 10:45 PM 2/28/2005 +0100, Geert Jan de Groot wrote:

>Should I worry about not getting fingerprints on the glass of glass-enclosure
>tubes like the 3Z500?
>
>Should this have happened, what would be the best way to wipe them?
>
>Geert Jan
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